Re: Bella Swan Cullen
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:24 am
huh. well. i'm not sure how to take that. except take the REAL high road and say that we are all entitled to our opinions, and to sharing them. i also advise you to refer to my first post in this topic, where i specifically post many things i really do like about bella.
i will also say that different people read for different reasons - who be you to criticize my reasons or anyone else's?
i DO admire that bella went after what she loved. and i do admire her strength in that.
what i don't admire is how she went about it, and her treatment of people. it IS possible to get what you want/need, and have some consideration for others at the same time.
i find that bellla is very immature, and in being immature, she is very strong in some ways and very weak in others.
i find her will to be quite strong, almost too strong. when she wants something - she gets it. no matter what. she is also very responsible, having taken care of renee and then the household stuff she does for charlie.
however, i don't think she has the type of strength that makes her a strong person. she doesn't have strength of character. she doesn't stand up for the treatment of her friends. until recently, she communicated with edward terribly. she went into a catatonic state when her boyfriend left her.
i think we may define strength differently. i define a strong person as someone who can take care of themselves. a person who is independent, or at least can be. a person who knows how to treat other people well. a person who can handle emotional pain. a person who doesn't waste energy feeling sorry for herself. someone who puts others before themselves. a person who stands up for their friends, and most importantly, a person who can recognize their faults and try to do something about them.
furthermore, a person can be strong and self centered and selfish.
and also, juliet going after her true love was strong because she had to overcome warring families, and incredibly strong forces keeping her and romeo apart. what real terrible things has bella had to overcome for her love??? she's endured physical pain in her transformation, obviously, but when did she show strength in going after edward?? charlie wasn't trying to keep them apart. edward's family accepted her immediately. she never once sought edward out in the beginning of their relationship. in fact, she didn't really go after him, he sort of just happened to her.
but i can see her showing strength in Twilight, when she went to save Renee. and I can see how strong she was when she went to Voterra.
but the strongest? Edward has put himself through constant physical pain, denied himself the most delectable thing imaginable, put himself through great emotional pain, broken his own heart, in attempts to keep her safe. asked Jacob to offer to father bella's child, in a last ditch attempt to keep her alive.
Jacob, knowing it was going to hurt like hell, and he was probably going to fail, did his best to make bella see that she loved him, putting himself through great emotional pain, just for the slight glimmer of hope that she'd choose humanity. then he didn't even desert her when she was basically killing herself, even though it hurt him so much to see her like that.
what did bella do for love, exactly, that made her so strong in going after it?
Auctorita, i agree with you hun, i do. i'm just saying that we can't necessarily blame them, i mean, just because they don't yell at her doesn't mean they agree. they may not think it is their place, in fact, they probably don't, and it's kind of not. also, Leah yelled at her for Jake, not Edward. is it late where you are???
i will also say that different people read for different reasons - who be you to criticize my reasons or anyone else's?
i DO admire that bella went after what she loved. and i do admire her strength in that.
what i don't admire is how she went about it, and her treatment of people. it IS possible to get what you want/need, and have some consideration for others at the same time.
i find that bellla is very immature, and in being immature, she is very strong in some ways and very weak in others.
i find her will to be quite strong, almost too strong. when she wants something - she gets it. no matter what. she is also very responsible, having taken care of renee and then the household stuff she does for charlie.
however, i don't think she has the type of strength that makes her a strong person. she doesn't have strength of character. she doesn't stand up for the treatment of her friends. until recently, she communicated with edward terribly. she went into a catatonic state when her boyfriend left her.
i think we may define strength differently. i define a strong person as someone who can take care of themselves. a person who is independent, or at least can be. a person who knows how to treat other people well. a person who can handle emotional pain. a person who doesn't waste energy feeling sorry for herself. someone who puts others before themselves. a person who stands up for their friends, and most importantly, a person who can recognize their faults and try to do something about them.
furthermore, a person can be strong and self centered and selfish.
and also, juliet going after her true love was strong because she had to overcome warring families, and incredibly strong forces keeping her and romeo apart. what real terrible things has bella had to overcome for her love??? she's endured physical pain in her transformation, obviously, but when did she show strength in going after edward?? charlie wasn't trying to keep them apart. edward's family accepted her immediately. she never once sought edward out in the beginning of their relationship. in fact, she didn't really go after him, he sort of just happened to her.
but i can see her showing strength in Twilight, when she went to save Renee. and I can see how strong she was when she went to Voterra.
but the strongest? Edward has put himself through constant physical pain, denied himself the most delectable thing imaginable, put himself through great emotional pain, broken his own heart, in attempts to keep her safe. asked Jacob to offer to father bella's child, in a last ditch attempt to keep her alive.
Jacob, knowing it was going to hurt like hell, and he was probably going to fail, did his best to make bella see that she loved him, putting himself through great emotional pain, just for the slight glimmer of hope that she'd choose humanity. then he didn't even desert her when she was basically killing herself, even though it hurt him so much to see her like that.
what did bella do for love, exactly, that made her so strong in going after it?
Auctorita, i agree with you hun, i do. i'm just saying that we can't necessarily blame them, i mean, just because they don't yell at her doesn't mean they agree. they may not think it is their place, in fact, they probably don't, and it's kind of not. also, Leah yelled at her for Jake, not Edward. is it late where you are???