moon sidhe wrote:I guess my previous post about sums it up. I think the biggest thing to realize is that everyone reads the story differently. We bring our own opinions and experiences to the story as we read it, and interpret it accordingly. So most of the time, there's not a right or a wrong, it's just how you perceived it.
There are plenty of people who aren't into Edward, and the discussions around here would be much more boring without them.
While i DO agree, that this relationship was on the KNIFE EDGE of having the potential to be an abusive, unhealthy relationship for reasons mentioned on your checklist, you have to remember that EVEN IF EDWARD WAS the most loyal, UN-CONTROLLING, character, IT WOULD STILL BE AN UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIP.
She is a human, He is a vampire. He could kill her with the slightest wrong move. Her blood "sings" to him. That was the draw of the books. How could something so unhealthy, ill fated and headed towards disaster be so wrong, but yet so right at the same time?
And then all the traits you checked off on your bookmark - Yes - edward could have been abusive and dangerous to bella - but - he refused to use these traits in an abusive manner - and turned these negatives into positive, protective things for bella. It showed how much he cared, respected, and loved Bella. (in a very Edward kind of way)
and give teen girls some credit! I am sure they know the difference between fact and fiction. I am sure every one know Mr Perfect does not exist in reality. No one would enter a dangerous relationship due to a book alone.
Terracottakitten wrote:So, it IS a fantasy book, and you say it doesn't really matter, but it CAN contribute to someone's perception of how things are supposed to be in real life...
malaz wrote: what do you think teen girls brain's are? gullible neurons?
moon sidhe wrote:Terracottakitten wrote:So, it IS a fantasy book, and you say it doesn't really matter, but it CAN contribute to someone's perception of how things are supposed to be in real life...
If someone on the younger side is reading it, hopefully their parents are involved enough to discuss some of the larger issues with them. Honestly though, I think most kids who are old enough to be reading this are old enough to determine what is appropriate for a real-life relationship and what isn't. If they can't determine that, then they probably would have been making more than a few bad decisions with or without reading Twilight.
As to whether or not Edward was abusive, I never saw him that way. But I also never really tried to translate their relationship into the real world. When he was watching her sleep, that never bothered me, at least as it applied to that situation in a novel. It's not as though he was a peeping tom who was trying to see her in her underwear, or wanted to harm her in any way. Edward was watching Bella sleep because he was drawn to and fascinated by her. He was trying to understand how he felt about her. I do understand why this bothers some people, but in the context of the novel, I didn't have a problem with it.
holdingoutforjacob wrote:malaz, YOU may be the exception but the fact is that most young girls are highly susceptable to images and symbols such as edward, they are shaping their values and what they want ina relationship, and they get that from their environments, be it their parents, their friends, or their books. even the media. why do you think anorexia is around??
that's not to say EVERY young girl who reads twilight will do this. but it's safe to say that this is what girls at that stage DO. now, if you have a lot of other positive examples of how a relationship should work, then you'll be fine. the girls susceptable to falling into this trap are ones that have no other examples.
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