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Alice is just one of those characters that just make me happy whenever I read about them. I mean when Alice went like "Bella don´t you love me??" in Eclipse all I could do was be like "omg poor Alice!!!" and then when she was allowed to arrange the wedding I could just imagine her bumping in her seat <3

She has this childlike aura with her happiness and craziness but she can also be very serious and be very much of an adult. like when she hunts down the half-vampires to find proof that Nessie isn´t the only one of her kind.
I really loved Alice for just taking everything into her own hands like that, she was so brave!!

Idk I think Alice couldn´t see the half-vamps in Southamerica or am I wrong? I remember her saying something like "I was looking for something I wasn´t sure was there because I couldn´t see it" (it´s on page 746 "I couldn´t even be sure someone like Nahual existed - all I knew was that I would be looking for something I couldn´t see! Try to imagine searching for a blind spot -...")
So I guess she just can´t see half-vamps because of something they have, maybe (what brings us back to the start of this thread) the chromosomes count?

ShoTheCat wrote:
Idk I think Alice couldn´t see the half-vamps in Southamerica or am I wrong? I remember her saying something like "I was looking for something I wasn´t sure was there because I couldn´t see it" (it´s on page 746 "I couldn´t even be sure someone like Nahual existed - all I knew was that I would be looking for something I couldn´t see! Try to imagine searching for a blind spot -...")
So I guess she just can´t see half-vamps because of something they have, maybe (what brings us back to the start of this thread) the chromosomes count?

As I understood it, ShoTheCat, she couldn't see them because not only did she know half breeds existed till Nessie, but it is because she was never one. She can't see the wolves either, because she never was a wolf either. However, she can see humans and Vampires because she was and is one. Does that make sense?

I think Alice is an awesome character. She has always been nice, friendly, and there for Bella,Edward, Jasper, ect. I agree with everyone who doesn't blame her for leaving. I was really happy when she came back. I can't picture staying anywhere that I got major headaches. I probably would have left too. I agree with everything ShoTheCat said except for Alice seeing the half vamps. Idk about that

Do you think then after spending so much time around Nessie that she would be eventually able to see her? The same with the Wolves? If she can't ever see the wolves, then she really couldn't ever see Nessie because she will always be around Jacob and the other Wolves.

It would depend on the theory of WHY she can't see the wolves.

The theory I enjoy best, is that she can only see that which she is or has been. Alice has been human so she can see humans, but not as well as vampires (which she is currently). She has never been a wolf and therefore she will never be able to "see" them.

SwanCullen wrote:Do you think then after spending so much time around Nessie that she would be eventually able to see her? The same with the Wolves? If she can't ever see the wolves, then she really couldn't ever see Nessie because she will always be around Jacob and the other Wolves.

As far as the wolves, I don't think she will really ever be able to see them. The primary theory as to why she cannot see the wolves is that they are so ruled by their instincts and transformations that the future literally cannot hold them, can't track them. That won't ever change. But, Ness is a different story. The prevailing theory as to why she can't see Ness is that she sees those things she is most familiar with best. But, she's never been a hybrid. However, she has been a human and is currently a vampire. So, as it is with Edward and Charlie, it is a matter of Alice learning Ness' tenor, the sound of her mind, so that she can pick out her future. However, this won't last long as Ness' future will end up completely surrounded by wolves, which will eventually block her from view.

Just watching New Moon now... the bit where Alice and Bella get in the car to go to Italy, and Jake is leaning in the car begging Bella to stay and she is insisting she go, I love the way Alice says "OK!" like it's all sorted.

That one little bit sums up why I love her so much I think!

Question about Alice...I was watching New Moon the other night with my niece and started wondering why Alice didn't see the whole paper cut situation and ensuing Cullen evacuation from Forks? This question has probably been answered somewhere else but if someone could post it again, I'd appreciate it!

mandyhope22 wrote:Question about Alice...I was watching New Moon the other night with my niece and started wondering why Alice didn't see the whole paper cut situation and ensuing Cullen evacuation from Forks? This question has probably been answered somewhere else but if someone could post it again, I'd appreciate it!

Mandy~ Because the whole situation was precipitated by an accident, not a decision. Bella's paper cut was not something she could predict since Bella did not consciously decide to cut her finger. Therefore, all of the subsequent decisions that were made by Edward (a distinction that must be made because he essentially forced the family to follow, stupid boy) could not be seen until that moment. I'm sure once the chaos died down, Alice saw all of the subsequent decisions and how they were going to play out, at least as far as she could.

Babynessie~ Unfortunately, were not likely to see a lot of Alice in the films of BD. We'll see her in her glory leading up to the wedding. But, then, once Bella & Edward return, she spends a lot of time in hiding because of the headaches she gets being around Bella & Ness. Then, with the split likely right around Ness' birth, she splits soon after and only returns for the end confrontation. I love Ms. Alice as well. I think she balances everyone out very nicely.