malaz wrote:The problem with Jacob is the way he handles himself and with things in general. Age is never an excuse. He consciously continues to make the same mistakes repeatedly - that never puts anyone in a good light. And he’s bratty and naïve some more.
I don’t think there’s any problem with Jacob wanting to fight for bella’s life. The way he went about these actions in eclipse were inexcusable. I think if he had a frequent maturity and understanding level in regards to bella’s choice and the way he wanted to fight for her that would have been better actually. It’s sort of like the distinction between shoving and pushing people to be the first on the bus and waiting patiently in line quietly (it’s quite irritating actually. Ugh. Never riding a crowded bus ever again). I am not sure why the excuse "in comparison to Edward..." often comes up. I am not sure if anyone puts reference or comparison between the two when realizing their opinions and judgments. At least, that's never the case with me. Jacob's actions in eclipse stand in stark contrast to Edward's and naturally they do seem that way - but without the comparison, the same thing can be said to his actions without putting edward into consideration.
The way Stephenie Meyer chose to present Jacob didn’t do enough justice to how clear his actions were to herself or how the character “naturally“ is supposed to be without the use of deliberate preferences. I felt as if she was trying too hard to present him in this certain, deliberate way. It just doesn’t work - for me at least. I think this is accentuated especially in eclipse (and in breaking dawn) and in particular in scenes with Edward and or Bella. And I think the major effect that eventuated his character to present himself in the way that he was presented in the books, especially is SM preference for Jacob. She claims she is “Switzerland” - I don’t doubt she doesn’t love Edward, but with the way the books read it leads me to think otherwise.
Of all of SMs preferences, her continual doting excuses and condonements for Bella's behaviors bother me the most. But I wouldn't say she prefers Jacob. After all, she gave Edward Bella. Jacob got stuck in a side note.
Malaz, sometimes i feel like you are a little biased against Jacob. Please don't be offended, we all do it. I'm not faulting you for it. But sometimes I feel like this makes you have a very negative attitude toward him in general, and you apply it to actions that really don't deserve it.
Honestly, what actions, besides the two kisses (one of which I can forgive him for ONLY out of his desperation, not saying it's right, just forgivable, and one that i completely abhor) do you find to be inexcusable?? Because i really think that's your bias talking, honestly.