amethyst wrote:Jadey wrote:I don't think that Edward really made any sins. He killed people because of what he is.. and I don't blame him for killing people out of frustration and anger. He lied because he had to. He probably stole things cause he had to. He isn't human.. so it's impossible for him to try and go by the commandments. And I don't believe those rules apply to him... or should apply to him. I admire that he wants to stick to them, but he shouldn't blame himself for breaking them because it's not entirely his fault.
He knows he's done wrong, and he can ask for forgiveness if he really means it.
His heart is in the right place..
My thoughts exactly Jadey.
As a human, I find our species to be nothing that Edward or any other vampire should care about. So here is my perspective… in reality, humans are at the very pinnacle of the food chain so we literally get to pick and choose from the many prey available that best satisfy us (chicken, sheep, cow etc). Now, in the Twilight world, the vampires are the ones who are at the very pinnacle of the food chain, and their prey that best satisfies them are us: humans. So I find it only natural that they would go along with how God (or nature for those who don’t believe in God) designed them to be.
I don’t feel that Edward needs to atone for killing humans. To me it’s simple, there’s nothing wrong or sinful about your natural food source (Yes, I am quoting Aro. I do agree with him), so there’s nothing to atone for. I don’t regard the Cullens or vampires with the same levity that I regard humans. While it is admirable that all the Cullens worked hard to cling to their human perception and are able to condemn their actions or doings as wrong or right . . . I really do disagree with them. So I definitely don’t see it as a “sin” or “wrong doing” when they kill humans. But for arguments sake, if I do think of Edward the way I think of a human, then his sins (excluding killing) are small ones like Jazz Girl had pointed out. Lying, stealing and so forth. But I still am not able to take them as serious as I wouldn’t have if it were a human.
And this is coming from a religious person, if anyone is curious.
Ok I can see and agree to what you are saying but have you heard of vigilante, I think if someone did something to someone I love I could be a vigilantist but even though it would be right to me and everyone else it isn't right in our society.
Now on to Edward, do you think that because he was turned into a vampire that he lost all of his morals ? Even if you do not see Edward as a human, he was one and functions outwardly as a human, with the only diference being is, appetite, super human strenght and some other things. Edward knew right from wrong, so I say that when a person like Edward who has that conscience, does wrong, he does feel the need for atonement and accountablility. This also applies to Carlise and I think this is his whole philosophy of his, that the Cullens live by. That vampirism is like a disease and not another species. When a human dies he is buried and is dead. When a human is bit by a vampire, he isn't buried but his body and mind is still there with added aspects like being on massive doses of stryoids and change of appetite. Under this philosophy then sins and accountablity, and atonement would apply to them.