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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby Jazz Girl » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:11 pm

VirginiaMay wrote:BUT I think that going back again and again comes down to his loneliness. For the first time in one-hundred years he has someone to pass the nighttime hours with, even if she is unconscious.


Ginnie~ I totally agree. I think you've really got something there. But, I think it goes a little deeper than just sharing the night with her. I always giggle when I read through The Saga and Bella talks about what it means to her that Edward stays with her at night. I always think about what it means to Edward. First, there is just something about watching the person you love sleep. I do it often with my husband. When he sleeps, there's a sense of peace about him, and that peace calms me. There's just something about being able to be with the person you love at any given time, even in the middle of the night. But, I think for Edward, it's a much bigger issue. Yes, he loves the peace that Bella brings him, and the peace she gets when she's asleep. But, I think it much more has to do with what sleeping in Edward's presence means. Edward sees himself as a monster, as a constant threat to Bella. And yet, every single night, even after he shattered her, Bella makes herself as vulnerable as she possibly can with him. Every defense she has is down. She even knows that she talks in her sleep, possibly revealing to him things she tries to keep hidden. But, never once does she think twice about him staying with her, being with her while she is at her most vulnerable. It is the ultimate expression of the trust she has in him. For Edward, that constant reminder of how much Bella loves and trusts him renews him and gives him hope in a way I don't think he even realizes.[~tell~]
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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby VirginiaMay » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:52 pm

Jazz Girl wrote:I think it much more has to do with what sleeping in Edward's presence means. Edward sees himself as a monster, as a constant threat to Bella. And yet, every single night, even after he shattered her, Bella makes herself as vulnerable as she possibly can with him. Every defense she has is down. She even knows that she talks in her sleep, possibly revealing to him things she tries to keep hidden. But, never once does she think twice about him staying with her, being with her while she is at her most vulnerable. [b] It is the ultimate expression of the trust she has in him.[/b] For Edward, that constant reminder of how much Bella loves and trusts him renews him and gives him hope in a way I don't think he even realizes.[/color]


You're absolutely right! I never thought about that aspect of it, but it's so true. I just get all warm and fuzzy thinking about how much that would mean to Edward. *sigh*
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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby Kachiti » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:02 pm

Jazz Girl wrote:
Ginnie~ I totally agree. I think you've really got something there. But, I think it goes a little deeper than just sharing the night with her. I always giggle when I read through The Saga and Bella talks about what it means to her that Edward stays with her at night. I always think about what it means to Edward. First, there is just something about watching the person you love sleep. I do it often with my husband. When he sleeps, there's a sense of peace about him, and that peace calms me. There's just something about being able to be with the person you love at any given time, even in the middle of the night. But, I think for Edward, it's a much bigger issue. Yes, he loves the peace that Bella brings him, and the peace she gets when she's asleep. But, I think it much more has to do with what sleeping in Edward's presence means. Edward sees himself as a monster, as a constant threat to Bella. And yet, every single night, even after he shattered her, Bella makes herself as vulnerable as she possibly can with him. Every defense she has is down. She even knows that she talks in her sleep, possibly revealing to him things she tries to keep hidden. But, never once does she think twice about him staying with her, being with her while she is at her most vulnerable. It is the ultimate expression of the trust she has in him. For Edward, that constant reminder of how much Bella loves and trusts him renews him and gives him hope in a way I don't think he even realizes.


Wow, your explanation is simply beautiful.
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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby December » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:19 am

Jazz Girl really has a gift for writing about Edward, doesn't she?
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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby VirginiaMay » Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:15 am

December wrote:Jazz Girl really has a gift for writing about Edward, doesn't she?


She really does, but we already knew that Caryn's love for Edward was one for the ages...;)
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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby Jazz Girl » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:34 pm

Awww, you guys are making me blush. :D All I can say is Edward has touched me in a way that no character ever has before. I can only write what I feel and how his thoughts and emotions touch me. But, to say that he does touch me is much like saying he loves Bella. It's a bit of an understatement.

As for the issue of his staying with Bella at night, it's one of those things that I find so revealing about who he is, about his heart and soul. Edward relies so heavily on his traditional upbringing, holding to many of the traditions of his time. And yet, in this instance, he does something that would be considered quite scandalous in his time. Even in just being in her presence unchaperoned, let alone in her room, in her bed and holding her in his arms, being held by her. Add to that how he suffers his thirst, suffers from the existence of the thirst for Bella at all, and the fear he feels that he might hurt her, whether by being overcome by his thirst, or just by letting his physical control slip at all. I honestly see his need to be with her while she sleeps as his first acceptance of her sacrificing for him. He accepts her vulnerability, revels in her total acceptance of who he is. And that gives him just the smallest bit of hope that their future is possible.

Before New Moon, he is able to dismiss it as a form of protection, a way of keeping her safe, both from him and from the wider world. But, after New Moon, I think he's at least partially aware of the hope and acceptance he feels when she opens her window to him every night. It's the reason why he tells her in Eclipse, after the fight in the truck over seeing Jacob, to close her window, that he'll understand if she doesn't trust and accept him after what he did. It's the reason why she opens the window as far as it will go. Because, no matter what else, she loves him and trusts him with her fragility and vulnerability. She understands his need to keep her safe, even if she doesn't agree with his methods. Every time he enters her window, holds her while she drifts away, hums her lullaby to her, he accepts her trust and her love and that she gives her trust and her love to him. It is the most telling gesture between them. If you were to ask me what I think Edward would miss the most about Bella after the change, I'd say being able to hold her while she sleeps.

Now look. You all have me running on. I think I'll quit while I'm ahead.
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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby Susie » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:57 am

Somehow found this discussion -

Jazz Girl - A+ again. (I'm all teary eyed now)
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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby VirginiaMay » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:00 am

Susie wrote:Somehow found this discussion -

Jazz Girl - A+ again. (I'm all teary eyed now)


Welcome Back, Susie!
And yeah, that made me a little teary too!
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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby Jazz Girl » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:59 pm

Edward, love, hoping that Ness' birthday is everything she wants and a wonderful reminder to you that, sometimes, it's the things we never expect that bless us the most.
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Re: Edward Cullen #6

Postby Edwards Ragazza » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:04 am

Caryn~ You always write the most beautiful explanations to this saga. I always enjoy reading them. :)
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