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pennybug84 wrote:I'm pretty sure that Jacob imprinting on Renesmee is going to be in there. (Why would they leave something that important to the story out? Jacob does end up happy w/his soul mate.) They will just have to be VERY CAREFUL on how they explain it so that those who have not read the books don't get the wrong idea or get grossed out. (I'm REALLY hoping that it gets explained in Eclipse so that they won't have to backtrack in BD. But they might not since they like to cut things out. Anther good reason that SM will be a producer on this one.)

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i'm pretty sure i read in one of those blog reviews fromfans who saw the Oprah screening that Jake DOES explain imprinting in Eclipse

bored by the sea wrote: ***** spoilers***********

i'm pretty sure i read in one of those blog reviews fromfans who saw the Oprah screening that Jake DOES explain imprinting in Eclipse

Sweet! Good to know.

Just thinking about that makes me wonder how people like my mom who have not read the books will feel about imprinting after watching the movie? My mom asked me once what happened to Jacob (she knew that Edward & Bella got married) and all I said was that he becomes a part of their family in a weird way. THANKFULLY she did NOT ask me to explain that one to her! I didn't want to have to dive into that & explain it all to her!

pennybug84 wrote:

bored by the sea wrote: ***** spoilers***********

i'm pretty sure i read in one of those blog reviews fromfans who saw the Oprah screening that Jake DOES explain imprinting in Eclipse

Sweet! Good to know.

Just thinking about that makes me wonder how people like my mom who have not read the books will feel about imprinting after watching the movie? My mom asked me once what happened to Jacob (she knew that Edward & Bella got married) and all I said was that he becomes a part of their family in a weird way. THANKFULLY she did NOT ask me to explain that one to her! I didn't want to have to dive into that & explain it all to her!

gah o.k. well my mum asked the very same kind of question and DID ask me to explain it to her she wasn't impressed at all im fairly sure she said that's disgusting, although im thinking she didn't truly get what i was exactly saying, i did say to her that its not like "that" with Jake and Renesmee, i tried to explain it more fully by using Quil and Claire don't think that helped sooo yeah im also intrigued to see how people react in the cinema who haven't read the books, i think it'll be pretty clear who those people are too

I am hoping that Stephanie will make it to where it's not going to freak people out with the whole impriniting thing.

I never knew that she was going to be a producer on the movie that's really amazing!!!!! I think the movie is going to be in really good hands then because i dont think she would let anything bad happen to the movie! Im really excited about that!

I agree about the sex scene issue. I understand that SM doesnt like to go into that topic too much and prefers the whole "fade to black" thing. I just hope they realise how annoyed fans will be if they dont give any detail and follow the book exactly. It annoyed me so much in the book - i hope the movie doesnt disapoint! It doesnt need to be detailed but i mean come on! we need something! v

I would agree with some prior comments that having SM as producer is going to be mostly an improvement, but that there are some things that will need a lot of rework and she will have to be flexible. Truly faithful adaptations are not necessarily a good thing. I’m thinking specifically about the imprinting.

The problem with the imprinting storyline isn’t as much with devoted fans who have little choice but to accept it, as is it going to be with a movie audience that doesn’t have to accept it. It does not make logical sense for the imprinter to simply randomly imprint on someone; there must be a purpose behind it. Try to convey to the audience that the imprinting is just some sort of supernatural protector/big brother/best friend/potential lover kind of thing, and most people will go “huh?”. That’s because that doesn’t really make sense—why is this happening? I think Sam’s biological perpetuation of the species theory is one that works best in most people’s mind, because now it makes more logical sense, but then you have Jacob imprinting on the baby he just helped deliver himself. This means that Jacob is eventually going to have sex with Renesmee. Yes, this is going to be years later, but we see Nessie first as a baby. I just don’t think it is going to work.

Even Bella flat out states that she never dreamed Jacob would continue being a part of the family as her son-in-law. Does that make it in the movie?, because that is one of the most memorable lines in that chapter. Jacob has already explained the imprinting thing to Bella; was Bella confused, did she misunderstand? And if that line is taken out of the movie, then doesn’t that say that this imprinting thing might be a real problem? If Bella didn't really get the imprinting thing, then how is the movie audience going to get it? Or is the real problem that Bella does get it?

How about just before, when Bella realizes that Jacob has imprinted on Nessie? She is holding her daughter, and Jacob has his hands on Nessie. She pulls her daughter closer, and Jacob steps forward so close he is almost touching Bella, with the baby still between them, his hands are still on Nessie, and he has this look of adoration on his face as he is staring at her. Is that scene from the book going to be faithfully adapted to the movie?

I don’t mean to be disrespectful of the Twilight canon, I just think there needs to be some real flexibility on how to adapt the novel. Personally, I would be very tempted to simply eject the entire imprinting business. I just don’t think there is any way to step through that minefield.

despoina92 wrote:Another part of me is kinda bugged from the fact that she's producing. Like I've mentioned, I'm not the biggst fan of BD, and I wished that, if there was a movie, some things would slightly change. The most important for me is the relationship between Edward and Renesmee. I didin't like the fact that in the book she had developed such a strong bond with Jacob and not as much with her father. It just didn't feel right. Of course, this is a personal opinion, but I feel that many people wished for that too. I don't say that they should not show imprinting or Jacob hanging around much (even though I don't like it, it's an essential part of the story and has to be in there), but just show the dynamics of the father - daughter relationship a bit more.

I agree w/you on the relationship between Edward & Renesmee. One thing that bugged me was the fact if Bella didn't have her it was either Rosalie or Jacob. Her relationship w/her father was hardly mentioned or discussed. The only time I can remember is when Bella is changing & Edward is singing to her. I would have to think that they had a better & stronger relationship than is mentioned in the book.

As for the sex scenes after readig some interviews online I'm not worried about it fading to black. There will be some stuff there. It won't be explicit but probably as far as they can go for a PG-13 movie.

Corona now I understand the worries you brought up about the imprinting but how could they not explain what happens to Jacob? He will be at the Cullens house all the time. As Bella says things are finally fine between them & I think she even uses the word right. His relationship with Edward even finally gets to a place where they're not ready to kill each other. Those fans who have only seen the movies (like my mom & because of this she prefers Jacob. She made the comment she doesn't think Bella should become a vampire) would want Jacob to have his happy ending. And well the imprinting is important to that. I just hope that there is a MUCH better explanation of imprinting at some point. Plus I REALLY wanna see Bella get ticked (?sp) at & lunge at Jacob. Good Luck to those reponsible for this!

Corona the reason that people who have not read the book like your Mom, perfer Jacob is because MR has done such a horrible job with the relationship between E & B. The book Jake and Movie Jake are totally different. She has made him the underdog in these movies and people love to root for the underdog and it is clear that MR favors Jacob and by doing so she has almost single handly ruin the whole saga. They should have hired a new screenwriter after Twilight. We are so desperate for the honeymoon because we want to see any kind of love and affection between E&B, something that has been totaaly missing in the last three movies.