babywerewolf wrote:From the beginning of the series, Rosalie has been my very favorite character. I don't agree with her blatantly bad behavior, or the disrespect with which she treats the love between Bella and Edward; however, I think her reaction to Bella's introduction into the family is the most practical. I loved Rosalie because she's not afraid to speak her mind. She's the only Cullen that addresses how truly selfish Edward can be - he's putting all his parents and siblings in danger so that he can have what he wants. I'm not saying that's wrong, but I love how Rosalie calls him out on it. And in BD, I don't think Rose gets enough credit for helping Bella through the pregnancy. Although she does it because she values the baby - not Bella - without her, nothing would have ended okay at the conclusion of the saga. And I couldn't stand Edward's snide comments about how Rosalie would risk Bella's life entirely to save the baby - adter all, isn't that what Edward's willing to do: risk the lives of all the Cullens for Bella? I love Edward, but I love Rose even more because she brings his hypocrisy to light. I love how strong her character is, and her story made me like her even more.
Rosalie sacrificing Bella for a kid that's not hers, no. I'm very sorry. But I can't understand that. That's not compassion, or love, or desperation. This is pure selfishness. Not more, not less.
Hearts in red ink. wrote:Well, from the beginning I knew why Rosalie acted the way she did without even hearing her story.
She was jealous of Bella being human. That was obvious.
I don't think her story justifies the way she acted towards Bella.
Although I understood why she was the way she was.
And I honestly didn't see the whole helping Bella with the pregnancy thing as her being truly compassionate.
I still felt like she did all of that for the baby and not so much as helping Bella to.
I saw it as her just trying to save the baby for her own selfish reasons.
Bella was a Cullen, she was apart of the family.
Everytime Rosalie showed or tried to show compassion it seemed like she was doing it to gain something herself.
1. Her trying to tell Bella why she should stay human.
It upset her how much Bella was willing to throw away her human life for love, that's not something that Rosalie would have done and seeing Bella do that only pissed her off. She couldn't handle it.
2. The baby, she wanted that baby badly. And nothing else.Rosalie sacrificing Bella for a kid that's not hers, no. I'm very sorry. But I can't understand that. That's not compassion, or love, or desperation. This is pure selfishness. Not more, not less.
Dreauror wrote:I think its like this, Vampire aside look at it from Rosalies view point. She never had children and yet when Bella asked her to save her from having "the thing" as Edward put it aborted, she embraced Bella and guarded her. The first thing she did when Bella was lying on the floor vomiting blood and Edward put her on the table in library, I believe Jacob said it looked like an operating theatre.
Rosalie ripped open Bella's stomach and went for the baby, the scent of blood was too much for her her animal vampire instincts over whelmed her. Jacob said "throw it out the window!" which I thought was hilarious. Rosalie came to her senses and took the baby and she nurtured it. All those motherly instincts that she had lost or never requited came back to her immediately and she had something she had always wished for a child.
Taking the vampire out of the equasion and just seeing her as someone selfish and out to get what she wanted no matter what the costs is not really a fair comparison. My Mum gave birth to twins, two healthy happy twins. A woman who had lost her child, said my Mum had no rights to have two when she had none. It cut my Mum up but nothing ever happened between them no word was ever spoken about this to any one. The mother grieved and my Mum got well, so did the twins and they came home. This was back in the 1960's.
The thing is some women will go to obsessive and very sad lengths for a child they desire, they are not vampires, they are not selfish they just yearn for something they desire. Its supposed to be natural to all girls and women to want to raise babies. I don't. I will never know what it is to have or not have a child or long for one, I never wanted one at all. So you can see where this obsessive desire lead Rosalie on her path to rearing this baby, having something she had always wanted and never having the chance to have the child because of her abusive partner.
She was frozen in the mindset of a woman that always had what she wanted, she was beautiful, much desired if she asked she got, then she married an abusive husband and her rose coloured glasses shattered and she ended up in another world. A neophyte, a vampire with no way of finding her woman or girl hood with no drives or instincts or any hormones that create a sort of nurturing instinct between Mum and baby. All that was left was her lust for blood and revenge. I believe she avenged her own death, killing those five men and then settled down as best she could.
How must it have been for her, living in a world where everyone else has children and then Bella comes along with all the desires and needs of a human and she wants to give it up to be like Rosalie, to be undead. I hardly think Rosalie was selfish I think she was just trying to fulfill something she could never have.
PrincessSparkle84 wrote:I am going to sound like a monster here, but I had a hard time really feeling bad for Rosalie when she was telling Bella about why/how she was changed. Now before you freak out on me, I feel bad for what happened to her and I agree 150% that what happend to Rose was disgusting, vile, and horrible. Rape is a horrifying thing, and I can imagine it would be even worse when done by someone you trust. BUT I found that whole story to be hard for me to believe. I just didn't get why her fiance would so randomly do that to her, especially to the point of death. My mind doesn't work in gruesome ways, so I guess I just have a hard time finding this story believable. Am I the only one??
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