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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby Mrs.Mylifenow,Cullen » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:55 pm

1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?

No Jessica is petty and she sides with whoever is popular at the time. Yeah Bella fraked her out that night at Port Angeles but a true friend sticks with you through thick and thin. She is just showing her true colors.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?

Because she knows that-that place holds allot of Edward and she thought that just the memory alone of what they had experince in it would make her blood boil and her heart to race causing adrenaline, the danger it involved because of the bear attacks would bring his voice to her head.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?

He knows that Edward is not coming back and that gives him the confidence to be upfront with Bella, He knows that the other guys are no match for him he doesn't view them as threat. So that makes it easy for him to show how he feels about her not take no for an answer.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?

Yes I felt like she was lieing to herself, she knew that she was never going to be able to forget Edward or stop loving him. So I felt like she was thinking of cheating on Edward and her heart just so that she could feel better. It wasn't fair to all three of them Bella, Edward, and Jacob because he would love her but she would never love him, not with the same intensity or dedication, it's like puting a bandaid on a gushing wound it won't stop it from bleeding it will only slow it down.
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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby talkingdove » Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:25 pm

hello i downloaded a pod cast i got this far in the book new moon it ends with bella and a motorcycle and jumps to alice and her in italy at a town square how did it happen what did i miss
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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby Black Rose » Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:37 pm

1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?

Not at all. They'll all lucky that Bella is finally back to normal. Jess just wants someone 'normal' to hang around with. But she should realize that no one is really normal.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?

Because the only memories she has of the meadow are with him, so Bella thinks that the place and it's memories will bring the voice to her.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?

Its not in Jake's nature to give up on something, even a hopeless cause as this one. He will try with everything he has to get what he wants and he won't stop until he finally realizes that its just not gonna work. Which may be a while.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?

I think that it is in acceptance that Edward is gone. It is neither a good nor bad thing. It is just a change.
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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby golden x sunshine » Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:00 pm

1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?
-no, jessica's reactions were justified at all. if she had a problem with bella, she shouldve just talked to her about it or kept it to herself. she didnt have to turn everyone against her, it was really immature.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?
-the meadow was a really important place to both edward and bella, so by going there, bella probably hoped that she might hear his voice.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?
-jacob's just generally a really cocky person with a big ego. he didnt have anything to lose by repeatedly going after bella, so he kept trying.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?
-i think bella was just trying to honest with herself. she knew shes always love edward, but at the time she thought he was never coming back. she didnt want to be alone for the rest of her life.
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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby footloose » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:34 am

1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?
No, but then again, it's Jessica. I won't be surprised.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?
Maybe not to conjure his voice but more to search for a fact that he DID exist, that at one point in life he did love her.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?
1) cos he's over confident and 2) cos he understands Bella more than Bella understands herself and knows he has a chance (which is true to some extent)

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?
Both. I'm disappointed that her love for Edward isn't as permanent as his love for her, and yet it's realistic to move on when you've been dumped by your BF.
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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby bella+edward4eva » Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:02 pm

1- i think it makes sense. she tried to be normal agian, but blows it.

2- because , he won't want her to remember what happend there.

3- becuase he's now a sort of equal to edward becuase he's a shapeshifter, so he can feel just as important.

4- based on what edward tells her, it makes sense that she would move on, but at the sme time, IT'S EDWARD!!!!!!!
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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby rachelcullen86 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:57 pm

These questions come from the lovely Twix!

1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?

Of course not, she was only ever friends with Bella when it could be useful to her in some way. This need is now gone and Jessica has no reason to be friends with her.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?

Bella is obviously basing her hallucinations on finding a part of Edward, she feels if she can find a trace of him somewhere it will make them stronger... plus she is probably running out of reckless things to do in Forks

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?

Bella has already told him she thinks he is beautiful, Bella chooses to spend all her free time with him even after the bikes are finished... for all purposes he is only 16, and to a 16yr old boy it would appear that she does reciprocate even if she hasn't yet realised it herself

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?
Edward has not contacted Bella for months at this point & she still believes every word he told her during his parting, Jacob makes the sun shine for her & she can also imagine a very simple life could be had with Jacob...what she and Edward have is heart stopping, breath taking, all consuming love that will last forever... this aside, there is a more mundane love that can come from being with someone and enjoying their company, she understands that she could have this with Jacob. She never once betrays her heart as she knows beneath everything she does and says, if Edward came to her & asked her back she would go, without a moments hesitation.
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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby LilyMorgana » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:20 pm

1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?
Not at all. It's not as if Bella did something horrible that day. She just got a bit distracted and stared at a few men. No-one got hurt and nothing happened. I don't see why Jessica should react to that that way.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?
I didn't think she did that to hear his voice again. I thought she did that because she wanted to remember those great times more vividly. Maybe even to find some sort of proof that Edward actually existed.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?
I think he just thought it would all be worth it in the end. He truly believed that Bella would fall for him after finally getting over Edward and then all the rejections would be forgotten.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?
I don't see it as betrayal. Edward was gone and even though Bella didn't want to feel about Jacob that way, she must admit to herself that she does sort of like him in that way. She can't help that she feels that way.
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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby lunamia » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:10 am

1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified?
Yea..a little bit. I dont like Jessica and I dont like Lauren, but it was wrong of Bella to use Jessica like that. So..she has the right to not want to be friends with Bella I suppose. Not that they were very close to begin with. Anyway, I am not really to concerned about that.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice?
She mentions that the meadow most hold some of Edward's essence (so to speak), since it was his special place to be alone.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up?
Ah..rejection after rejection? Seriously? I would call it more like getting mixed signals. Thats where he gets his confidence from. I would say that Jacob is not giving up becasue he really likes Bella and there is a chance (slim as it is) that she might change her mind and pick him. At this point we don't know if Edward is coming back, so as long as he is not in the picture Jacob knows he has a tiny chance. Now with Edward back...its a different story ;)

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on?
If this was reality we are speaking about, I would say give yourself a chance to be happy. (I had tears in my eyes when she heard Edwards voice saying "Be happy" ). But I was still waiting for Edward to come back, so I didn't want her to get involved with anyone else.
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Re: Chapter 9 ~ Third Wheel

Postby debussygirl » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:00 pm

1. Jessica switches allegiance by siding with Lauren and convincing others to not go on the group outing. Do you feel that, based on Bella's actions the night of the bar incident, her reaction is justified? No, because if someone's your friend and going through a tough time, you help them out or you're not a good friend at all.

2. When the motorcycle loses power to summon Edward's voice, Bella begins to search for the meadow. Why do you think she chooses this as her next attempt to conjure his voice? Because she thinks that maybe his voice will be loving, since it's the meadow after all.

3. Bella is amazed that Jacob never gives up on pursuing her, despite rejection after rejection. She wonders where he gets the confidence. Based on what we know of Jacob, what do you think he reasons are for being so confident and not giving up? He's the opposite of Jessica--a good friend that won't give up.

4. Bella knows that part of her will always love Edward, yet she begins to entertain the idea of Jacob being more than just a friend. Do you see this as a betrayal of her heart, or is she smart to press forward and think about moving on? For what she believes, it is best for her to try and move on. She thinks Edward doesn't want her and so at that point, why be miserable forever?
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