Chapter 4: Gesture

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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby sarah! » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:06 pm

1. Bella has a knack for predicting outcomes. She makes a comment to herself about Jacob turning his back on his birthright as pack leader, and this left Sam Uley "to act as the chief of legends and magic now. . . ." Why do you think Bella didn't finish her thought?

idk.

2. Why do you believe that Sue Clearwater chopped off her hair? If she was so uncomfortable at the wedding, why did she attend?

i think she cut it so it would be easier to keep track of. I think she attended to support Bella and Charlie and go with her son.

3. Why does it bother Jacob more that Bella plans on a real human honeymoon than her pending transition in a week or two?

It it VERY dangerous to Bella's health. Jacob only wants his best friend to be safe.

4. There is no description of what car was decorated and used for the honeymoon get-away. What car do you believe they used?

Maybe Carlisle's Mercedes because it is fast and has tinted windows.

5. Why is Bella so hopeful when she waves goodbye and sees her families on the porch?

She sees everyone together and happy which makes her happy! :D
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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby Ifeellikerain » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:11 pm

sarah! wrote:
2. Why do you believe that Sue Clearwater chopped off her hair? If she was so uncomfortable at the wedding, why did she attend?

i think she cut it so it would be easier to keep track of. I think she attended to support Bella and Charlie and go with her son.



I thought she cut it to make her kids feel more comfortable with having to have really short hair (sort of like what families and friends of cancer patients do sometimes) did i read that somewhere or just make it up? anyways i like your reasoning too!
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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby ~*teamswitzerland*~ » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:32 pm

1. Bella has a knack for predicting outcomes. She makes a comment to herself about Jacob turning his back on his birthright as pack leader, and this left Sam Uley "to act as the chief of legends and magic now. . . ." Why do you think Bella didn't finish her thought?

hmm... good question, and I don't have a good answer for this one. I'll try the next one.

2. Why do you believe that Sue Clearwater chopped off her hair? If she was so uncomfortable at the wedding, why did she attend?

I think that in the book Bella said something about Sue being in solidarity with her children. Since Seth and Leah are werewolves, Sue cut her hair to show her support for her children... And the reason that she was uncomfortable at the wedding but was still there, regardless... it's possible that maybe she was there because someone else was there ;) (see the top of page 752 if you have finished the book)

3. Why does it bother Jacob more that Bella plans on a real human honeymoon than her pending transition in a week or two?

I think that it bothers Jacob more that she wants her 'human honeymoon' with Edward than her coming change does because all he cares about is her safety. He loves her, and all that's important to him is that she is unharmed. I think that he actually knows that she will still be Bella after she is changed, even if it takes years for her to be back to normal. At the moment, he just cares that she could be hurt very badly, and he just wants the best for Bella.

4. There is no description of what car was decorated and used for the honeymoon get-away. What car do you believe they used?

Hmm... I read someone else's answer to this question, and I like their answer. They actually analyzed all of the possibilities. I can't remember who it was, but they were like on page 1. I think it might have been the first post... anyways they came to the conclusion that it was most likely Carlisle's Mercedes, and I like that answer.

5. Why is Bella so hopeful when she waves goodbye and sees her families on the porch?

I think that she is hopeful because there is the hope that Charlie and Renee can still get along, even with Phil now in the picture. I wouldn't say hopeful that they might get back together, though. (see answer for q.2)

BTW, I was just wondering why some of these questions don't discuss the significant events in this chapter, like Jacob coming back. I think that we should have questions that ask people things like "How did you feel when Jacob came back? Did you sense that he was going to come back at some point?"
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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby watchoverme » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:23 pm

~*teamswitzerland*~ wrote:BTW, I was just wondering why some of these questions don't discuss the significant events in this chapter, like Jacob coming back. I think that we should have questions that ask people things like "How did you feel when Jacob came back? Did you sense that he was going to come back at some point?"


I absolutely agree with you!! I think that would be more meaningful instead of people just answering the same set of questions. Although...would that need a different thread, seeing as this is just for chapter 4...or we could come up with those kind of questions for the chapter. :) I'm game for anything!
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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby una » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:31 pm

Quite a valid point and as I created the list of questions, we can certainly add an additional one as it does pertain to this chapter.

6. Jacob did returned in time for Bella's wedding reception, what was your reaction to seeing him there? How do you interpret his comment, "I guess I've been wandering back this direction for a while, and maybe it's because I was headed here." How do you feel about the interaction that took place between Bella and Jacob?
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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby keds723 » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:38 pm

una wrote:6. Jacob did returned in time for Bella's wedding reception, what was your reaction to seeing him there? How do you interpret his comment, "I guess I've been wandering back this direction for a while, and maybe it's because I was headed here." How do you feel about the interaction that took place between Bella and Jacob?


I love that you're bringing these questions in here!!

I was happy that Jacob was there, actually. He, after all helped her when she was down and out, but at the same time, I don't think he respected the boundaries of the setting. This influenced my feeling of how Bella reacted. I thought she was pretty ridiculous since it was a day about her and Edward. I felt like her feelings shouldn't have been what they were, and she could have hid them a wee bit better. I don't think this was entirely Bella or entirely Jacob's fault, but still. I was impressed at how amazing Edward was...(As always)
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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby watchoverme » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:17 am

Yay for new questions! You did a great job with the first few by the way. :)

I was worried about Jake being there, as I was unsure of what was going to go down. As that scene progressed, I could tell that he was really trying to be on his best behavior for Bella's sake and I was okay with it. Then things got kind of crazy, but I was expecting it on a level.

His comment...I think that it just shows his devotion and that he really wants to be there for Bella. I think he was subconsciously heading back, and then when he realized what he was doing knew he needed to be there. Perhaps it had to do with gaining closure and that concrete, yes, she is in love with him, yes she is married.

I was proud of him for how well he handled himself in the beginning. But, as I alluded to earlier, I knew it wasn't going to last. His emotions are such extremes that it wasn't going to take much to set the trigger. And...it would have been so atypical to leave thiings on a happy note. There had to be something to bring them back, and in a way, the sour ending brought them back together in chapter...5 (I believe...or 6 - don't have book next to me currently).
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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby RebeccaCullen » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:07 pm

1. Bella has a knack for predicting outcomes. She makes a comment to herself about Jacob turning his back on his birthright as pack leader, and this left Sam Uley "to act as the chief of legends and magic now. . . ." Why do you think Bella didn't finish her thought?

She must not have wanted to go there. If he had taken on the role of cheif, Jake probably would have tried to start a war of some sorts with the Cullens over Bella. As childish as that may sound, it's something I could see happening.

2. Why do you believe that Sue Clearwater chopped off her hair? If she was so uncomfortable at the wedding, why did she attend?

I think it was to show that she supported her children, even if she doesn't like it. She went to the weding because Seth went there, pack be damned.

3. Why does it bother Jacob more that Bella plans on a real human honeymoon than her pending transition in a week or two?

Because I think he accpeted that there was no way to change the outcome Bella's future. It scared him that she would willing to have sex with a vampire.

4. There is no description of what car was decorated and used for the honeymoon get-away. What car do you believe they used?

I think that they may have used the Mercedes because it was faster and had the thinted window's.

5. Why is Bella so hopeful when she waves goodbye and sees her families on the porch?

I guess she hoped that she would be able to see both of them after the honeymoon for a few years until they had to disapper and still be able to keep in contact via email.
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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby dragonrider713 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:13 pm

1. Bella has a knack for predicting outcomes. She makes a comment to herself about Jacob turning his back on his birthright as pack leader, and this left Sam Uley "to act as the chief of legends and magic now. . . ." Why do you think Bella didn't finish her thought?

I have no idea. Her thoughts were probably just flowing right into each other, not really forming anything complete.

2. Why do you believe that Sue Clearwater chopped off her hair? If she was so uncomfortable at the wedding, why did she attend?

think Sue chopped off her hair in support of Leah. She probably went to the wedding partly to keep and eye on Seth and partly because of Charlie.

3. Why does it bother Jacob more that Bella plans on a real human honeymoon than her pending transition in a week or two?

Jake had already resigned himself to the fact that Bella was going to become a vampire. That idea was nothing new to him. But the thought that they were going to have a real honeymoon and he could kill her was probably much more shocking. I think he'd rather have her alive and a vampire than dead.

4. There is no description of what car was decorated and used for the honeymoon get-away. What car do you believe they used?

It was probably the Volvo. I can't see him letting them go anywhere near the Vanquish, and the Volvo is what they're used to.

5. Why is Bella so hopeful when she waves goodbye and sees her families on the porch?

She probably thought that she'd be able to see them again, somewhere down the line.
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Re: Chapter 4: Gesture

Postby xxonceuponadreamxx » Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:40 pm

In answer to the question about her predicting the future, i have noticed that A LOT throughout the series. She always seems like shes about to find something then her brain just changes. It's almost like her brain is self conciously saying 'You know what? I dont really want to know.' At first I would laugh and say 'Come on Bella it's right in front of your face!' i say that with a lot of books and characters, but then i came to realize, how many times have we not realized something that was in front of our face, so i give her more slack. Besides, her almost blonde-like nature (dont worry, im a blonde too) is what makes her so funny, it adds to her clutzy behavior nicely. :D
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