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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby mikkib » Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:28 pm

Did anyone else have a hard time imagining some of the images in Twilight?

1) The Cullens with dark circles under their eyes being really really attractive. I could see looking tired and needing sleep but she also described them as being like they had black eyes that were healing. It's hard for me to imagine someone being quite like that and being incredibly gorgeous at the same time.

2) All the romantic moments seemed romantic enough but then you think about how Bella keeps describing him as a statue. Curling up to David ( the statue ) no matter what he's doing just does not sound comfortable to me. I tried to envision that and decided I just couldn't properly.
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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby Esme echo » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:55 pm

Esme echo wrote:eclipserox, if you review the end of New Moon, pp. 531-532, Edward describes how Demetri's gift works and his conviction that it will not work on Bella. Also, somewhere in the third book of Breaking Dawn Bella muses about her determination to stay with Edward, whether or not it means they both will die. Sorry, I don't have time to look for the reference now.

Here it is, from Breaking Dawn, p. 652: "It was not going to be the end of the world. Just the end of the Cullens. The end of Edward, the end of me.

"I preferred it that way--the last part anyway. I would not live without Edward again; if he was leaving this world, then I would be right behind him."
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That attitude seems kind of irresponsible to me . . . I don't think it was right for Bella to plan to give up her life so she wouldn't have to live without Edward. Bella had a child now; she needed to endure whatever she had to, both to protect the baby and to be there for her until Renesmee was self-supporting. Renesmee's well-being should have been more important to Bella than her emotional agony over losing Edward.
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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby roseaurora » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:54 pm

I understand where you are coming from, but I figured she knew that Jacob would be able to keep Renesmee safe.

It seems like the "love" bond between vamps is even stronger than to humans... if she couldn't function after losing Edward as a human, I don't even want to know what she would be like as a vamp! :shock: Maybe having a child would remedy that, but if Edward was killed seems like Bella would be on the hunt for revenge (as vampires seem to do) and that would be very dangerous for Renesmee...
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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby SenorGimp » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:22 pm

excellent point rose, as usual.
and i completely understand what you meant mikkib, i had a hard time envisioning the dark circles plus attractiveness, and until you just brought it up, i hadn't noticed that i had taken the dark circles out of their mental images in my head, leaving them just plain attractive...
hmmm, and as for kissing a statue, I guess it really depends on the statue.
But I hardly think it would be as nice as soft warm yielding flesh.
i meant the lips, god don't get the wrong idea... :oops: :lol:
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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby Mrs.Edward_Cullen<3 » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:25 pm

Mrs.Edward_Cullen<3 wrote:Do you think Edward had a hard time restraining physical affection/lust for Bella?


This wasn't really answered much soo...yea! Re asked! :D
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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby SenorGimp » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:34 pm

^^^^
in regards to the difficulties edward may or may not have faced in his efforts to refrain from showing physical affection to bella..
Of course it was, for one, because he's so absolutely in love with her, for two, because her blood is the most intoxicating aroma he's ever endured, for three, because she's drop-dead gorgeous, and his hormones didn't die when he was changed, and four, well basically the hormone statement again, but instead i was going to say, he's a 17 year old senior citizen (lol) whose never had any sort of physical relationship before, and, just as it was with me when i was still, ahem, unfamiliar with the process, he also has the same new and powerful urges, which, coupled with the first three things, makes it ridiculously difficult to restrain himself, but I think he does a pretty good job.
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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby Esme echo » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:36 pm

Yes, I think it was hard for Edward; but he had his eye fixed on a goal, and that goal helped him do hard things--like resist Bella when she was pressing for a more physical relationship.
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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby navarre » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:37 pm

Mrs.Edward_Cullen<3 wrote:
Mrs.Edward_Cullen<3 wrote:Do you think Edward had a hard time restraining physical affection/lust for Bella?


This wasn't really answered much soo...yea! Re asked! :D


Uh - Yeah. After all he is still a man albeit a vampire, but still a man. He told Bella many times that she had no idea how hard it was for him. That it was not easy being disciplined with her. She certainly made very hard for him. Her scent, the feel of her warm body against his, so on, so on.

Remember in Twilight when she asked him if she affected him like he did her, he said "I may not be human, but I am a man". pg311.

For me, I would not care if he felt like marble, I still would love for those 'Statue of David' arms to hold moi! :D

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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby edward4ever » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:55 pm

Mrs.Edward_Cullen<3 wrote:
Mrs.Edward_Cullen<3 wrote:Do you think Edward had a hard time restraining physical affection/lust for Bella?


This wasn't really answered much soo...yea! Re asked! :D

:lol: You're funny..."...soo...yea! Re asked!" :lol:
Honestly, I don't know how either one of them didn't accidentally "explode" ( :twisted: if you get the innuendo there...) on several occasions! It was very um...difficult to READ about Edward restraining himself...let alone having to actually be the one to stop at that critical moment. I guess as soon as he started feeling like he wanted to rip her clothes off (like he did the little black lacey thing on Isle Esme)---that was his cue to back off! :lol:
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Re: Edward Cullen #3

Postby ariadnee » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:39 pm

Mrs.Edward_Cullen<3 wrote:Do you think Edward had a hard time restraining physical affection/lust for Bella?

Edward's self-control continues to get better and better as the story goes on. By the end of Twilight, he can restrain himself from wanting to kill her enough to kiss her without fear. By the end of New Moon, he says he'll never be tempted by her blood again. But he's still struggling to control himself (as evidenced by the occasional bout of heavy breathing) in their making out sessions late into Eclipse. That to me says that his lust for Bella's body eventually becomes even stronger than his lust for Bella's blood, which we know was immense.

We also know how crazy Edward is about protecting Bella from physical harm, even and especially from himself. I don't think he ever lets himself get even the least bit out of control until their wedding night. For over a book, the farthest he'll let them go is kissing, without letting either of them remove the first shred of clothing. Finally, near the end of Eclipse/beginning of Breaking Dawn, he accedes to allowing his shirt to be removed. (And she's wrapped up to keep herself warm.) That's it. To me, that says that any farther would tempt him to a point he was scared would be too much for him.

Of course, the above is true if his only concern was hurting Bella. The only thing I don't know is how much of it is his natural prudishness regarding physical contact before marriage. He may think that doing much beyond kissing is inappropriate for unmarried couples, and is just using the "I'd hurt you" line as an excuse to avoid going any farther. We know from Eclipse that he's a bit embarrassed when he tells Bella about his more traditional beliefs. It'd be nice to get some Edward POV from Eclipse to answer that question.

Anyone have an opinion on that? I love to hear more. -Ariadnee
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