December wrote: But the way Alice talks to Edward it in MS, she implies that it's too late for Edward to affect the outcome: the chips are going to fall where they were always going to fall and nothing he does can deflect them; the shadows creeping towards Bella -- either death or half-life -- are going to take her willy nilly. Alice offers him no escape route, no possibility that he could change things by choosing differently -- because, she says, he loves Bella too much to let her go.*
Edward is determined to defy Fate and spare Bella the doom Alice sees descending: "I could choose a different path. There was always a choice. There had to be." But of course in the end, Alice's original vision comes to pass. So was he mistaken in thinking they had another choice?
personal correspondence #12 wrote: Alice is a fatalist. She knows her own future, and she follows it.
Alice sees the potential for two outcomes after Bella and Edward's meeting. Alice will love Bella as will Edward. Bella will die in Edwards arm either as a snack or as a newborn vampire. Alice (the teacher) chooses to believe they will become sisters and thus does everything in her power to bring Edward (her student) to her expectations. And she does quite well at bringing her prophecy to fulfillment. Once Edward learns of the prophecy he initially fights it but then becomes resigned to fulfilling it as well.
December wrote: Until he sees the vision in Alice's head, Edward has no idea that he loves Bella. Does this foreknowledge colour his feelings for her?
December wrote: Would the future have been different if he'd been ignorant of what was in store for him?
December wrote: Does he fall in love with Bella less freely and spontaneously than she falls in love with him?
December wrote: If this was in some sense a self-fulfilling prophecy, does it change the balance between choice and fate in this story?
Until he sees the vision in Alice's head, Edward has no idea that he loves Bella
SparklingDiamond wrote:Yet, he loved her from the very beginning. They had an instant chemistry, just for him vampire/human chemistry is deadly. That instant protection he felt for her in, "First Sight." It was love from the beginning, he just didn't know what it was until Alice pointed it out. Leave it to a man! After living a loveless, well romantically loveless life, for over 100 years I suppose I can't blame him for not seeing it himself until someone who had experienced romantic love first hand points that out to him.
Truelove1 wrote:Edward’s first instinct was to shield Bella, physically shield her, from Jessica’s poisonous thoughts. This happens when he can see her, but her scent (the thing that provokes his vampire instincts) hasn’t found him yet. So, his initial reaction to her is something very, very human.
LisaCullenAZ wrote:December says Edward had no idea he loved Bella until he saw it in Alice's head. This only means Edward didn't recognize his own feelings, and could't make sense of all those conflicting thoughts. It doesn't mean those feelings were absent.
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