1. What do you think about the honesty the boys show each other?
Edward and Jacob understand clearly that they are rivals, each vying for Bella's heart, her life. Edward understands Jacob's motivations as he can read his mind, and Jacob is trying to understand Edward's reasoning. In a way, for a time it neutralizes a bit the rivalry between them as they try to understand each other. Sadly, and not unexpectedly, they return to their hostility with the dawn. Jacob is much more of the one to wear his heart on his sleeve, and yet even he remains hidden at some times. This encounter allows us to understand both of them much more clearly.
2. Are you surprised to see Edward admitting his jealousy and showing less patience?
It was Edward's mistake that left the opening for Jacob... Without Edward's departure, Jacob never would have stepped in or forged that relationship with Bella. Edward feels almost as if he owes something to Jacob, other than his gratitude for Jake saving Bella's life, which Edward had already confessed. Edward decides to be honest with Jacob so that Jake understands what is really going on. Jacob is accusing Edward, every time they see one another, for the pain that Edward left Bella in with his departure. Edward feels immense pain and the weight of responsibility, and seems in a way much more mature than Jacob with his calm confession than with Jake's wild thoughts and plans. Despite all this, I still fell for Jacob over Edward. Jacob is everything for Bella to live a happy normal life, while with Edward, she may be giving up everything including her motherhood, her mortality, and perhaps her soul. This torments Edward and constantly forces him to reevaluate the situation and his motives, and why he left in the first place. Wouldn't it be better if he had just stayed away? Would Bella be happy with Jacob? Would she be safer if he was gone? Edward asks himself these questions and this only adds to his maturity over Jacob... And yet, in my mind, Jacob still prevails, though in the end he loses the battle for Bella's heart, and her life.
3. How did you feel about Edward's four options regarding Bella?
I agreed with Jacob, and liked option one. It is rather like Stephenie Meyer says, on her FAQ, when asked about character's flaws... Edward is highly prone to overreaction. Perhaps some of this is deserved, as this is an extraordinary situation, however Edward seems to carry everything too far in every area.
4. What surprised you most about the conversation they had?
The restraint with which they both held themselves and were able to talk in a mostly civilized and personal manner was perhaps the most surprising. It seemed to me to be the first glimpse of the brotherly affection we see later, such as in Breaking Dawn in the later chapters, where much of the competition between Jacob and Edward has become much more rational and playful. They seem to genuinely understand if not care about one another, despite their prejudices and rivalry.
I also love the Robert Frost poem that opens the book as a whole, and how its title ties into this chapter and into the entire book. The depth of Fire and Ice within the story of Eclipse is really incredible if one takes the time to ponder it.
Some say the world will end in fire
Some say in ice
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire
But if it had to perish twice
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a thread commenting on the quotes opening the books and how they relate to the story as a whole? I don't know, it seems fascinating to me, but I love that kind of thing.
If you're not really here, I don't want to be either. I want to be next to you.
black and gold, black and gold, black and gold, black and gold, black and gold, black and gold.