The Dark Knight wrote:How do I broach this subject? Those that have not killed have no idea what Edward means when he says he is a monster. To even speculate is an entertaining venture but in reality it's far from OK. There is a distinction in what Edward did over say an executioner or even a soldier. He was not killing but rather murdering which makes the stain upon his soul that much darker…It’s an up close and personal method he used. He saw the lights go out in the men he killed. This does not go away, and no one can excuse or pardon him for his actions. He gets to live with that forever…
diane771 wrote:Dovrebanen I was just answering DK's V is for vendetta in v's that exonerate Edward in DK's language. Maybe he is looking up what I said too.
I am surprise to find so many people find fault in Edward when SM did not write him that way. He has admitted to his "crimes" and deals with them always, I guess I could go as far to say more than most would if put in Edwards place. That to me just shows that he is repentive and is self persecuting of his deeds for ever. A non repentive man would not see fault or see what he was, nor judge himself the way Edward does. Edward is his own worse critic and I find that frustrating and endearing at the same time. Edward is complex, but he seek no vindication on his actions. So why does everybody have to see the bad in him and not the good? Edward is aware of it, so it seems to me that people think that he is running from that part of himself and its quiet the opposite. He can't win, sorry but from seeing some post I get a feeling that people want to focus on the bad side of Edward but leave out the fact that he knows what he did was wrong and he is dealing with that demon everyday and trying to overcome those demons and he has for decades. Thats just my opinion
diane771 wrote:No DK, why is it so hard to see the good in Edward without him asking for the warden? I see him and what he lives with and he is not asking for sympathy or exoneration he is a man who accept responsiblity for his actions and doesn't go around saying forgive me I am such a horrible person and I need your approval. The only person that he should want to exonerate him, are not the people in his life right now.
holdingoutforjacob wrote:*sigh* let's not fall into this again.
Every character has faults and flaws and it's important to discuss all parts of them and explore everything about them, which is why we are all here. There are plenty of fan-girl sites out there. But I don't think anyone is a villain, especially not Edward.
What makes a villain? I would think someone who is evil, someone who is intentionally hurting people, someone who is doing bad things. Which of those is Edward?
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