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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby holdingoutforjacob » Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:30 pm

I think Aro would kill anyone who gets too powerful for him to control. I don't think Bella or Edward or Nessie would ever willingly submit to him, so while they have gifts he would love to study, I think he'd be forced to kill them.
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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby paula_bnsnt » Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:46 pm

holdingoutforjacob wrote:I think Aro would kill anyone who gets too powerful for him to control. I don't think Bella or Edward or Nessie would ever willingly submit to him, so while they have gifts he would love to study, I think he'd be forced to kill them.


You're probably right.. I have a silly tendency to believe everyone's merciful lol

I have another question since I haven't been able to read thread #1 and I'm not close to reading the entire Thread #2... I'm sure it has been discussed but I just wanna check if I got it right by myself from reading the book: she gives whoever she touches the ability to read into her mind? I mean it couldn't be an active/aggresive power that forces things into people's minds or it wouldn't have worked on Bella.
I imagined it as a passive power, some sort of a welcoming or an invitation rather than an imposition. Edward's power in reverse because she doesn't read minds but allows minds to read hers. And Bella's power in reverse because she doesn't shield her mind from others but un-shields it to others?
She inherited her parents abilities and 'flipped them over' ... if that's the case, Stephenie Meyer IS a genious :shock: (just had an epiphany) lol!!
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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby holdingoutforjacob » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:00 pm

I think you're right, although I wouldn't throw out the idea of her being able to force people to look into her mind, just because it worked on Bella. Nessie is the anti-shield, remember?
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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby paula_bnsnt » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:03 pm

holdingoutforjacob wrote:Nessie is the anti-shield, remember?


:shock: anti-shield? not really, sorry! Would it be too annoying to explain????
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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby holdingoutforjacob » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:10 pm

Haha of course not, but you said it yourself! She's the un-shield. She gets through people's shields.
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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby paula_bnsnt » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:16 pm

(You should see the Homer Simpson expression on my face right now)

I meant un-shield as something she does with her own mind, not as something she does outside herself. Like opening it up to others. Like anyone who shakes hands with Aro. Her ability is to give others her dad's ability but just to see into her mind and as long as there's skin contact. It's no mind trick, it's for real, that's why Bella gets to see too, shield "on" and everything.
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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby holdingoutforjacob » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:39 pm

Hmm. Is that for sure, or is that your understanding? Don't get me wrong, it makes perfect sense, but I always thought that Nessie was the opposite of Bella in that Bella keeps everyone out and no one can keep Nessie out, including Bella.
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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby Tia » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:41 am

Hello everyone
I have my thoughts on this. They said Edwards power is mental and extracts what others are thinking, and Renesmee is physically (touching) inserting her thoughts . At least that was my understanding.
Well that wasn't exactly the reaction I'd been going for, 123 p. of SM's Partial Draft.
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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby Amanda Beth » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:38 am

Nessie's power is mental, just like Aro's, but they need physical touch... but it's STILL mental. Aro touches and gets past memories, nessie touches and GIVES past memories.

On top of that Nessie can give memories through any shield, the opposite of her mother who can block any shield. That is a THEORY though since the only shield it's been test upon is Bella's, which whom she's already blood related with.
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Re: Renesmee #2

Postby Tia » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:09 am

Thank you so much for that correction regarding Renesmee, Amanda Beth.
My thoughts did seem off and I had to see if it would be further explained here.
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