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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby holdingoutforjacob » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:58 pm

i don't think charlie is overprotective AT ALL. i know personally, my mother would never be comfortable with my being so serious in my very first relationship. if anything, i think charlie was a little overly calm about it.

of course, we know it wasn't just any first relationship. but charlie has no idea.
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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby KaseyHeartEdward » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:36 pm

Charlie for me was awesome! He was a good father.

I loved how he and Bella were so alike. So stubborn and quiet.

With Charlie i don't believ that he neglected Bella. He just didn't know how to be a parent. He barely saw his daughter while she was growning up. And when as Bella lived with Charlie he was learning to be a Parent to a teenager. I can understand hwo hard that could be for him.

Also i understand how it was hard to show emotion. I'm like that it is really hard for me when it comes to my family for me it is becuase i feel i need to be strong for them. For Charlie he has been alone for so long. And the last person (Renee) he showed his total feelings to. Left him. Caused him much pain. So it was hard to open up to Bella. He was afraid he would loose her as well. He always loved her i just don't believe he knew how to show it to her as well as himself in ways.

I loved charlie! He is a good father. And an awesome character.
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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby sarahbells » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:02 pm

I am soo happy that he finally found someone. And who better then a werewolfs mother. They are both trying to deal with the supernatural things going on with their children. HOW PERFECT! =-)
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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby Esme echo » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:22 pm

But Sue knows that Bella is a vampire, and Charlie does not! :o How in the world is Sue going to keep her mouth shut when Charlien starts to share his concerns with her?? Maybe he won't. Maybe he'll keep pretending things are just slightly off normal. But will he feel like he has to make excuses to Sue for Bella's oddities--like never eating her food, etc.? :oops:
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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby CantBreathe » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:31 pm

Esme echo wrote:But Sue knows that Bella is a vampire, and Charlie does not! :o How in the world is Sue going to keep her mouth shut when Charlien starts to share his concerns with her?? Maybe he won't. Maybe he'll keep pretending things are just slightly off normal. But will he feel like he has to make excuses to Sue for Bella's oddities--like never eating her food, etc.? :oops:


I don't know how much Charlie thinks about all that is going on behind his back, but I think he probably has an idea that Sue is in on it to some degree. I personally don't think it's a healthy relationship if you have to keep so many secrets from your partner, but maybe it works out since I don't think Sue is at liberty to share too much and Charlie doesn't want to know anyway. In that case, Charlie probably thinks that Sue knows enough that he doesn't have to make excuses for Bella's strange behaviors. I kinda feel that Charlie isn't emotionally open enough to share his concerns about Bella, and as long as he keeps up the "need to know" deal, he really wouldn't want to hear the answers. It would be hard if Sue had to lie for Bella, but if Charlie should ever want to know, I think it should come from Bella herself.
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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby Esme echo » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:56 pm

CantBreathe wrote:...I personally don't think it's a healthy relationship if you have to keep so many secrets from your partner...

There's a difference between keeping secrets and keeping confidences. I put the mythological realities of the Cullens and the werewolves more into the "confidences" category. Don't you think the types of secrets that would make a marriage unhealthy are those that damage the trust between partners? Hmmmm. I haven't thought about this much. :?
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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby CantBreathe » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:27 pm

Esme echo wrote:
CantBreathe wrote:...I personally don't think it's a healthy relationship if you have to keep so many secrets from your partner...

There's a difference between keeping secrets and keeping confidences. I put the mythological realities of the Cullens and the werewolves more into the "confidences" category. Don't you think the types of secrets that would make a marriage unhealthy are those that damage the trust between partners? Hmmmm. I haven't thought about this much. :?


You're right, it's not so much that the secrets themselves are damaging to the relationship. I can't speak from personal experience, but I feel like it might put a strain on the relationship when there is SO much that you can't talk about it, especially when it is such a huge part of your life, as with Sue. I think it would be difficult to live like that, always watching what you say or do. Of course, it would probably take some of the strain off if Charlie understood that Sue knew things that he did not want to know, because he wouldn't mind that she was keeping it from him.
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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby holdingoutforjacob » Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:51 pm

i think we have to keep in mind charlie's opinions on all this. he knows SOMETHING'S going on, but not what, nor does he want to. my guess is sue will be ok with that, it should work out fine, and charlie's smart enough to know that sue knows something.
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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby glstewart » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:46 pm

It seems to me that Charlie hit the jackpot when Bella moved in. He got a live-in maid and cook and really didn't have to shell out a dime! I understand that he's not the talkative, schmoozy type...but neither is Bella, but yeah, he coud've/should've been more involved in Bella's day-to-day activities. On the other hand, I can understand the fact the he really had no clue how to be an actively involved, day-to-day parent. He was lucky that Bella wasn't the type to really push her boundaries, since she had set them up for herself.
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Re: Charlie Swan

Postby Amivera » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:34 pm

KaseyHeartEdward wrote:I loved how he and Bella were so alike. So stubborn and quiet.

I don't think Charlie's very stubborn. I don't think he's stubborn at all. He and Bella are similar in that sense, actually.

For example, Charlie grounds Bella, because she tried to kill herself, flew off to Italy without telling him first, and rode motorcycles (and though he didn't know it, she was actually trying to put herself in danger).
He was supposed to be extremely angry, but he still allowed Edward to come back after he emotionally abused Bella. He still allowed Bella free time.

Also, I think we were all expecting Charlie to throw a fit about the wedding, but he really didn't. He was more freaked out that she might be preggers, and when she ended up being engaged, he calmly told her she would be the one to call her mother. No fight. (Someone's probably going to mention that Charlie had reason to not put up a fight, because he understood Bella and Edward's relationship was so *deep* that he couldn't stop them, but that's not my point. I'm just saying he's not stubborn).

And then when Bella came back from her Honeymoon with a baby, he didn't throw a fit again. He found out it was her biological baby and he wasn't even angry. It would've made more sense for him to be, because to him it would mean she had lied when she said she wasn't pregnant.

So... yeah. :D

With Charlie i don't believ that he neglected Bella. He just didn't know how to be a parent. He barely saw his daughter while she was growning up. And when as Bella lived with Charlie he was learning to be a Parent to a teenager. I can understand hwo hard that could be for him.


And Bella didn't want him to pay attention to her anyway. She said she liked feeling as though she was living alone, because Charlie was barely there. I think if Charlie ever 'neglected' her, it was more because Bella neglected him.

Also i understand how it was hard to show emotion. I'm like that it is really hard for me when it comes to my family for me it is becuase i feel i need to be strong for them.


I understand that, too. :P
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