December wrote:Feeling more comfortably settled than ever here in my stubborn little movie-free zone. Even Rob's lovely face isn't worth seeing Stephenie's amazing story tangled up with someone else's strange reinterpretation....
This version is pretty much wall to wall emo, and (to my mind) so much less effective for it.
Wow, I admire your determination! If there is a movie adaptation of a book I like, I simply have to see it whether it's good or bad. I have to judge and compare it to the book myself, I guess. It is a good thing you haven't seen NM though. Edward is pretty much moping around the entire movie.
December wrote:Grace under pressure -- that's what we're meant to see in Edward. Of course there is the dark side of the story running beneath it like an ominous groundbass, but Edward makes it all look so easy. If he didn't, Bella would never be fooled for so long about what becoming a vampire really means. And none of us would have fallen in love with him. Yes, we should see him looking tortured -- but only in flashes.
Maybe they tried to emphasize the dark side of him, because they thought the flashes in the books are too subtle for a movie audience. But they have gone a little overboard with it, making him look less gracefull and appealing then he is in the proces. The problem is that we don't get to see why Bella would fall for him other then "He saved my life and he is gorgeous" because Edward is so depressed the entire time. (This could even be one of the reasons the love triangle is more present in the movies, now that I think of it.)
I don't think it's RP's fault though. There are just not enough -if any- scenes in the script where Edwards good side is shown. A pretty good example is this scene:
Esme echo wrote:Even in the big "sparkling in the sun" scene -- which should have been romantic and tender -- Edward wastes the event on self-loathing and blaming Bella for smelling so good. There was no real meadow scene at all.
If they could have just split this back to what it was in the book: Bella learns Edward is a vampire and asks all the questions on the drive home from Port Angeles. This way Edward has some time to learn and accept that Bella is not afraid of him and she's not running away before they have the ultimate romantic scene in the meadow.They can be completely themselves and express there love and Edwards grace and wonderful character can come out. In the movie that scene (to me) is more about Bella being fascinated about the vampire powers, but she knows little to nothing about Edwards life and character and Edward is still worried that he is going to scare her away. CH has even said that a big problem with the script was that they fall in love to fast. By inserting this scene they could have solved two problems with one solution: make them fall in love more gradually and have Edwards good side shine through. (Hope what I mean is still understandable. I don't have a way with words as some of you do.)
Jazz Girl wrote:December wrote:ETA
("it wouldn't be like drinking your blood, for instance"
No, please, please tell me this is not in the movie script....
Yes, in all it's utter wrongness. Smack dab in the middle of the discussion of veggie-ism. The funniest part is the look on RobWard's face after he says it. I think CougarCat put the pregnant pause in in an attempt to show him actually considering the differences or something equally insane. But you can absolutely tell, the look on his face is one of absolute incredulity, essentially communicating, "Ummm, no, should not, would not, have said that."
I had to go and check that and you're absolutely right, he does look like that! LOL! I think that look is supposed to say "She's still not running away from me screaming after I say stuff like that?! *giggle* Nope, I guess she's either absolutely fearless or crazy."
StellaBlueBella ~ As Jazz Girl said it's during the talk about being a vegetarian. Edward and Bella are in the woods and Bella is asking him a lot of questions about vampires and his life etc. In this shot they are sitting on the rocks near a river. Full quote:
Bella: "So is Carlisle the real reason you don't kill people?"
Edward: "No, he's not the only reason. I don't want to be a monster. My family...We think of ourselves as vegetarians. Because we only survive on the blood of animals. But it's like a human only living on tofu. It keeps you strong but you're never fully satisfied. It wouldn't be like drinking your blood, for instance."
I like the idea of recording your own audio book. I absolutely agree that they are terrible right now (sorry, woman who recorded them). I tried listening to them after I read the books for the first time and I couldn't even get past chapter one. I have often wondered what it would be like to have Kristen, Rob, Taylor and the rest of the cast recording an audio book. (Is that also what you meant December? Or did you have other actors in mind? I'm terrible at interpreting subtext/sarcasm etc.) They know these characters like no other I would think - except SM of course, it would be great too if she recorded one. I get the impression sometimes that even the actors don't like certain things changing from the book to the movie. Kristen could read everything that is not dialogue since it is Bella's point of view.
If only... Dream on Suzan, dream on.
Hmm, this has been way to long, sorry. It's just nice to have a place to vent. Shutting now.