Actually, to comment on both your points, we do enjoy intelligent discussion of the books on several of the threads here. I know that many of the threads can and do come across as over the top, but most of the posters here are where you are, although we still love the books and the world they created for us, we have moved on. We even discuss those other books here as well. We are here because we loved what the books did for us, and we love the people here.
We do not have a thread for "I Hate Twilight" or anything like that because that would cause much more drama than any of the mods want to deal with.
However, I would encourage you both to come and talk on some of the serious discussion threads in the various forums. If you come in with good questions, we will almost always discuss them with you. Look for them in the Quench Your Thirst forum under the names of Explorations, or General Philosophical Musings. We even have a few discussions going on the the Bree forum under Explorations and Discrepancies. You are not the only ones who feel that way, trust me.
The reason we are careful about "haters" as you call them is that we have had so many horrid run-ins with them. Not fans who still enjoy what the books did for them, but have moved on, but true haters who have tried to hack the Lex and have sent vicious and maligning pms to the admins of the Lex. We are leery of true haters, but honest discussion is always welcome on the right threads.
Please don't feel like you need to hide the fact that you once loved Twilight but are getting sick of the hype. So are the rest of us. It is a beautiful series that benefited my life in wonderful ways. But I am reading other books and doing other things that I love just as much. I play here because I like it, and because I will always love the books for what they gave me.
Feel free to pm me at any time!!