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Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby Alphie » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:38 am

Lady Di graciously helped us out with these questions!

1) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie?

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly?

3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices?
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Re: Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby sazykid » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:20 pm

1) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie?
Maybe Billy is trying to keep his distance from Charlie so he doesn't give anything away about Renesmee and Jake or the vampires.

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly?
I guess criminal would be an accurate word for him. Obviously he has a forgery business, but he is ok with making fake documents for Nessie. I think we had to fully understand the criminal of this man to understand why the Cullens use him for their forgery needs.

3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices?
I think Bella is probably right. Nessie isn't really old enough to understand the rules of being a vampire yet and putting her in charlie's care would leave him with too much information and put him in danger. Helping Nessie and Jake get out of the country is really the only thing that can save her if things didn't go according to plan.
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Re: Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby Hyvanna » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:13 am

1) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie?

To hint that the human world is ablivous to the vampire world a big thing like the Volturi visting and the humans are clueless and also to hint that there is another love triangle brewing. Because both Billy and Charlie likes Sue so of course he wouldn't want to realy invite Billy over for the lunch Sue is bringing.

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly?

Shady..... He has differnt offices for differnt clints to feel comftable doing "bizness" with him even tho nervous as heck he's still sorta kinna comftable with vampires "shaking hands an not saying anything about the feel of it". Described so in our heads you'd think of someone who would work for the Mafia...their "paper guy".

3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices?

Yes I agree with her Interpretation of J. Jenks. No......You dont bet agians Alice ;)
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Re: Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby pennybug84 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:33 am

1) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie? I think she proabably included it to remind us & Bella that other things are still going on. Obviously something was happening between her father & his best friend.

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly? I would say immoral. Obviously he doesn't care about breaking the law, working with people he knows nothing about, and all because they can pay him a bunch of $$$

3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices? I can't really see any choices & so I would agree with her. But I don't think even this plan really would have had a great chance of working. When Jacob would try to leave w/Renesmee they would have been chased by a bunch of Volturi members.
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Re: Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby Jazzy'sgirl112108 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:27 am

1) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie?
he's probably reminding bella that there are still people who need to be protected. like charlie.

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly?
hmmm....good question. something like a good bad guy. he forges stuff, but he did help bella and nessie, and i cant go aganist that!

3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices?
i totally agreed and i agree with Hyvanna. you most certainly dont bet aganist alice!
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Re: Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby wig4usc » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:02 pm

Alphie wrote:Lady Di graciously helped us out with these questions!

1) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie?

I think there's a strain between Billy and Charlie about Sue Clearwater. If you recall, during NM, Billy spends a lot of time with her. Then, in BD, she's with Charlie. That's my take on it!

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly?


Shady is the first word I think of...fearful is the second. I think its funny how he's afraid of Jasper and Bella wonders the whole time why. I do think its interesting how much time/effort was spent on this character. I think perhaps its supposed to hint to some of the illegal activity that's necessary when you live forever and have to document yourself.


3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices?


I certainly agree that this was Alice's plan, to give Bella a contingency to keep Nessie safe. Otherwise, why all the "cloak and dagger"? Why go to all the trouble to keep it from Edward and from Aro? I wasn't so sure the first time reading BD, but after rereading it recently, I absolutely think that was the goal all along.
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Re: Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby misskiley » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:31 pm

) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie?
Maybe to make you realize that all of the regular humans still have things that go on besides the major vampire/werewolf events. In the other books when Bella was human too, they would have been a lot bigger events in the story. I'm not really sure what's going on between them, ecspecially now that Billy knows more of whats going on somewhat, I thought it would have brought them closer,.. It seems like every so often Billy and Charlie have a spat.

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly?
He is an important part to the battle that's about to happen. He is someone who knows the Cullens and what they might be, but because he does illegal activity and such he is not someone who would really blab. He is almost like a confident, kind of to Jasper because he has let him know things are kind fishy.

3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices?

Eh, there are choices but Bella said it best. "So that left one person. There really had never been anyone else.". She knows Jacob and Renesmee will end up together eventually and Jacob will always take care of her before himself. It's the best choice if Bella and Edward don't make it.
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Re: Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby Gochiruzeru » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:11 pm

1) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie?

Billy is probably dealing with the upcoming fight with the Volturi, and Charlie is noticing how preoccupied he is with it.

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly?

He seems like a typical lawyer to me. (Honestly, I wasn't paying much attention to J. Jenks' description.)

3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices?

I agree with her interpretation, and I doubt there would have been other choices.
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Re: Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby Tornado » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:47 am

1) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie?
I thought that Billy and Charlie might be having a fight. I thought it was about Sue!

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly?
Probably because he's an interesting character, and his physical state is significant in that he is worrying himself to death, probably due to the illegal nature of some of his work, and because his association with Jasper has freaked him out.

3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices?
I think that it is an appropriate last chance option. However, I never thought it would come to that.
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Re: Chapter 33: Forgery

Postby Brienna » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:11 am

1) “…notice the strange reluctance in his voice when he spoke of Billy, but not enough to worry what that was about” (page 630). This paragraph hints at other things happening in Forks besides the earth-shaking events surrounding Renesmee. Why do you think Meyer includes this paragraph? What do you think is going on between Billy and Charlie?
I thought Billy and Charlie would be having some sort of fight about Sue. I think SM included this, because Bella wants all her family to be happy and this might hint that Charlie would be happy again.

2) The description of J. Jenks / Jason Scott is very vivid. Every action and word helps to define his character. Compile a list of all the descriptions – which one word best describes the man? Why does this word work best and why is such a minor character described so thoroughly?
Can't find a word for it, English is not my native language. I think he was so thoroughly described, because even though he has a small part, he has a very important part in the story.

3) Bella considers this plan of Alice’s the “last chance” for Nessie if all else fails. Do you agree with Bella’s interpretation? Are there any other choices?
I agree with Bella, I wouldn't see any other option either.
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