Tornado wrote:I really don't see that happening. I can't imagine either Edward or Jacob acting that way, as it would hurt Renesmee. I certainly can't see Edward sharing that information with Renesmee as revenge. It's too petty for him. And she can't read his mind, so how is she supposed to see that?
Openhome wrote:I think Jacob's chance to learn and grow lies at the heart of Renesmee's story. If we ever get it, that is...
corona wrote:And doesn't Jacob point the way on how to handle that? Didn't Jacob insist on complete, absolute full disclosure in Eclipse? Didn't he blame Edward for holding back information and trying to protect Bella? Wasn't the whole point of Eclipse that Bella needed to be aware of all of her options so that she could make an informed choice, and that this was so necessary that Jacob had to knowingly inflict pain on Bella? Doesn't he insist in Eclipse that the imprintee also has a choice as well?
corona wrote:Trust me, Tornado, my posting definitely had a lot of nasty snark in it.
Tornado wrote:corona wrote:Trust me, Tornado, my posting definitely had a lot of nasty snark in it.
Yeah, I got that impression!
I'm sure she'll hear from somewhere. Probably from Jacob himself. I don't think he'd hold back from telling her about it, especially if she asks him. Then he'll have to tell. It would be interesting to know exactly what he would say. I think it would be quite a bit more balanced, as he is no longer in love with Bella, and he knows Edward better now, so he will be able to view their relationship more objectively. Moreover, if their relationship didn't exist, he wouldn't have Renesmee, so he's definitely going to view it in a more positive light these days. I think he would be frank about it, though, and with some reflection, hopefully more aware of the things he did wrong during this time.
Jazz Girl wrote:I do think he's essentially a good kid. But he has his very deep flaws.
Jazz Girl wrote:The issue I run into over and over in envisioning Jacob's future is that he's never been, nor at this point do I see him ever being, made to answer for his deplorable behavior. He's never once ever seen anything wrong with it, any of it.
Jazz Girl wrote:Yes, Edward is a gentleman. But, that doesn't preclude him from honesty and straightforwardness.
Tornado wrote:Jazz Girl wrote:Yes, Edward is a gentleman. But, that doesn't preclude him from honesty and straightforwardness.
Absolutely. But if this is his daughter's lover we're talking about, and he sees a change to Jacob's behaviour from the inside, where is the sense in dredging up the past? I think it's more in line with Jacob's forthright character to be upfront with Renesmee about those things, and I can see Edward leaving that to Jacob to explain as he saw fit.
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