Violet Sunlight wrote:1. Only, the author/creator of the story has the right to change/end their character’s/creation’s existence with any circumstance the author/creator wishes, NOT the Character themselves. Therefore, in my opinion, in the Twilight universe like the real world, anyone else ending someone else’s life is homicide/murder and someone ending their own life is suicide. In the real world, when the Author/Creator of oneself end’s one’s life it means, for me, that it is just time for the person to die and move on to eternity and immortality. Hence, when I think of what I just said as being one of the POSITIVE reasons/aspects of Bella becoming a vampire in the Twilight fairy tale created and authored by SM, it fits very nicely with MY OWN personal Christian beliefs that Bella’s imminent death circumstance was the event/device that the author/creator of Twilight (SM) decided to use to have Bella step into not only immortality, but also, had Bella’s body/essence be transformed into another type of being. (Vampire being.)
So if SM had allowed Bella to be transformed into a vampire without her imminent death you would have a problem with that?
Violet Sunlight wrote:2. Also, in my opinion, one of the (fictious) venom’s POSITIVE affects is the medicinal factor of healing the body and prolonging the individual’s life on earth in the Twilight fairy tale. Just, like I said in my, Chemo Therapy IV analogy in the real world. (Strong medicine that almost kills you but has the potential to save someone’s body/existence on earth.) Hence, in my opinion, when one VIEWS using (fictious) venom in the Twilight fairy tale as a form of medicine used for saving someone’s body/life on earth is, the second reason I am in agreement with Carlisle, ONLY when Carlisle & Edward VIEW the (fictious) venom as medicine to help save someone from their imminent death circumstance.
While saving life via venom may be a motivating factor for Carlisle, I'm not sure it ever was for Edward. He thought human death was better for Bella than any sort of vampire life initially, and then later changed to accepting that vampire life was okay for Bella because things seemed to come right when they were heading in that direction. He would have changed Bella if she had died or if she had been healthy, as we see at the end of Eclipse.
Violet Sunlight wrote:“Therefore, like I said before, for the sake of the game we are playing, both vampire beings and human beings, have souls and both have the same rights and opportunities to a happy and prosperous earthly and eternal life. But, this does NOT change the fact that God never intended the vampire life for anyone.
If God allowed vampires to come into being, it would seem that he did intend that life for some.
Violet Sunlight wrote:It just means every supernatural being in the Twilight universe, has to do what we do, make the best of their lot in life. And just because God forgives murder, doesn’t mean we should put ourselves in the path of committing it or be tempted by it. That would go against Jesus’ teachings. The Bible also says one should flee the desires/lusts of the flesh. Murder is listed as one of the lusts of the flesh. Hence, in my opinion, for a Christian, wanting to be a vampire or wanting someone else to be a vampire, of any kind (yellow eyed or red eyed) for any reason, is against Jesus’/Biblical teachings.
But the temptation to murder is something every one of us face anyway. Granted, it is more powerful in a vampire, but so is the capacity to resist. As the Cullens can do it successfully, I don't see it as going against God's teachings, especially if good can result from the transformation, as it does in Bella's case. Without her as a vampire the Cullens will be destroyed by the Volturi. Because of her as a vampire the Volturi may well be entirely destroyed, and the entire vampire world may discover that life without murder is possible. I cannot view Bella's transformation as anything other than God ordained, regardless of her state of being at the time of transformation.
Violet Sunlight wrote:Okay, Regarding SM’s intentions for how Bella was to become a vampire, I am inclined to believe, that SM meant for Bella to become a vampire from an imminent death scene caused by Bella’s birth scene. Didn’t she say something like, Renesmee was always part of the plan since Forever Dawn? I think, I am not sure but, SM’s publisher said something like, SM should get rid of the Renesmee character, and SM adamantly said NO, she wanted to keep her. Also, in the birth scene, she stopped many people from committing murder and stopped Bella from, in my personal opinion, committing suicide. Therefore, for me, all these things are NOT coincidences, in my personal opinion, SM purposefully planned it that way from at least the beginning of Forever Dawn. I am not sure, what the original idea was for, how Bella was suppose become a vampire if the whole story would have just been one book.
Just because SM originally planned to have Bella transformed after the delivery of Renesmee does not mean that she did it because she had a problem with the idea of turning her when she was healthy. As others have said here, SM originally just wrote what she thought was a fun story, so she probably just thought that was an exciting way to go. Also, back when it was just Forever Dawn, Edward never went through the changes he went through in New Moon and Eclipse, so he would still have been adverse to changing her, as he was at the end of Twilight. So something was needed to change his mind. Bella's imminent death did that. But the fact that Edward has come around to changing her while she is healthy, as he does at the end of Eclipse, suggests that the idea of changing her in that state was not a problem for SM.
It would be interesting to see exactly what happened in the alternate ending she wrote when she was being pressured to end the series with Eclipse. Is Bella tranformed when she is healthy in that version? Perhaps.
Violet Sunlight wrote:Now, regarding Rosalie, like I said before, I CAN’T compare Bella’s POTENTIAL rape scene to Rosalie’s ACTUAL rape and murder scene. Like I said before, they are poles apart for me. I respectfully ask, what if Bella would have ACTUALLY experienced the rape and murder scene that Rosalie ACTUALLY experienced, would Edward still have did the exact same thing he did for Bella’s POTENTIAL rape scene? I personally say NO. I am inclined to believe, Edward would have been even more extreme than Rosalie. But, that's just me.
As I said earlier, I completely agree that Edward was intent on torturing the individual who wanted to harm Bella to death, and probably would have enjoyed it while it was happening. But I believe Edward would have regretted it later, because he would have realised (much as he did when he was killing for blood) that doing it made him just as much of a monster as they were. Granted, it might have taken a while for him to realise this (in fact, if he killed himself, which is likely should Bella have been killed, he would probably never have come to this realisation), but he would have come to it eventually. However, it is clear that Rosalie still thinks it's just fine and is glad that she did it, and would probably do it again at any point without hesitation. And I see no sign, from what we know of her character, that this will ever change. That's what doesn't sit well with me.
Violet Sunlight wrote:Also, being that Rosalie was a vampire when she committed those murders, wouldn’t she also have to deal with the NEWBORN intensity of feelings being more powerful than even a regular vampire's feelings?
That still doesn't mean she shouldn't regret it now. As I said earlier, I can understand why she felt that way, and I would probably feel the same initially, but to continue thinking that it was okay sixty, seventy or so years after the event? Especially since it was such an uneven contest. They were her helpless victims once she was a vampire – hardly a foe worthy of vanquishing, as it might have been if it were a vampire whom she had fought. No, they were just weak humans. And being humans, they were answerable to human law, and there would have, as I mentioned in my previous post, been options via the law that the Cullens probably could have utilised to bring these men to justice. I'm sure Carlisle would have favoured that option.