Openhome wrote:Then again, it could simply be artistic license used by the art department and director because it worked better than having the wolves disappear and everyone KNOW it's a vision. It would have been a dead giveaway. One of the only places on earth where they will be called on it is here on the Lex, and they knew that.
Openhome wrote:Here is the reason they had to ignore canon: Alice doesn't see what she has never been. The wolves intervention completely eradicated her vision of the Newborn army in Eclipse. There is NO way that she could have seen the battle at all once the wolves were involved.
Tornado wrote:Openhome wrote:Here is the reason they had to ignore canon: Alice doesn't see what she has never been.
While this is stated in the books, even in the books these stringent requirements seem to lessen as time goes on. Yes, in the fight with the newborns Alice can't see the section where the wolves are fighting at all. However, in BD, she lets Bella hold Renesmee while Charlie is visiting and tries to see around her. This suggests that she can see some of Bella even while she is sitting close to Renesmee. Alice also allows three wolves to stay in the room, although she tells them to move to the side. This makes me think it's at least possible for Alice to see some sections of the fight with the Volturi if a wolf is not directly involved in that section.
Tornado wrote:This makes me think it's at least possible for Alice to see some sections of the fight with the Volturi if a wolf is not directly involved in that section.
Openhome wrote:This is exactly what I was saying about the possibility of her seeing the wolves and Renesmee, and really the whole heartbreaking battle. She was showing Aro HIS future. None of the wolves were directly involved in his fate, so they weren't blind spots. This also allowed Alice to see the future through Aro's eyes, and Aro most definitely sees them. The wolves don't make him blind, they are simply a background to his demise, just like the trees and snow.
corona wrote:Did anyone pick up on the nuance of Leah saving Esme?
Openhome wrote:Now, here is one possible way out I thought of (it is weak since SM made it pretty clear the wolves made all futures invisible to Alice): She was showing Aro HIS future, not just that of the Cullens. Aro had made up his mind to attack. If he hadn't, the future would not have been clear.
Openhome wrote:It isn't exactly the first time one of the movies altered canon a bit. Can I hear an ?
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