Tornado wrote:smitten_by_twilight wrote:Wow, Tornado, nice point. Turnabout is fair play.
I'm not sure it's fair play. It's actually quite cruel. Certainly, the way both go about doing what they do causes more pain than anything, mainly because they are not honest about their true motivations.
The atmosphere of distrust was pretty thick there. I know I said Jacob had a very good view of the delivery and bite scene, a superior one in fact. I would have easily given that up without one regret to have stayed in Bella's head for her final human days.
Tornado wrote:smitten_by_twilight wrote:And not to forget - Jazz Girl, well thought out and passionate post overall, and pretty much exactly my feelings. On reflection I wonder if Rob perhaps played that scene more like a human (angry) and less like a vampire (hurt), just because I don't know if Edward would even be comfortable losing control enough to yell at Bella. But it's a very fine line, and an agonized Edward could certainly let his anguish and his terror show.
Actually, Edward does yell at Bella in the books. He yells at her at the end of New Moon when everyone votes yes to her becoming a vampire. Bella also makes it clear that she is afraid that he'll yet at her when she comes back from her impulse visit to Jake. I think there's enough evidence in the books to suggest that he's yelled at Bella on more than one occasion (we know he has a temper), so it's not unreasonable to assume that he would have yelled at Bella when she told him her decision, even though he quickly realised he couldn't do that when it made her condition worse during the pregnancy.
The only problem I had with Edward showing anger was if it had been done with the purpose of making Jacob look better. I was concerned about the outburst, but specifically the context of it, so the BD1 trailer had me a little worried for a while.
I also think Rob was getting tired of showing just the long-suffering, noble, self-negating side of Edward. I know there were elements to that reception scene he objected to, showing too much deference to Jacob. Taylor also had issues with the imprinting, and I didn't blame him one bit. Sometimes the male just comes out. You'll never convince most men that stripping out "typical" male responses and reactions from a character improves that character or makes them more appealing. It's a mystery to us. What's the point of revealing and highlighting an aspect of a man's character if we have to sacrifice his masculinity to do that?
It's like the "puppies" scene between Edward and Jacob. I can step aside and look at it objectively as revealing the depths of Edward's love for Bella and his willingness to do anything for her. My visceral reaction is different, it just feels completely wrong and unfair to both parties.