Kachiti wrote:Wow, my power goes out for several hours and come back to find that I've s missed several pages.
Tox, Edward is anything but stupid and definitely not flat as character otherwise we have these so called "blinded girls" in love with him.
Terracottakitten and Tox I find it interesting at the timing of your posts as if it was a setup but then again I could be wrong. Now back to some of things you guys have said about Edward. Actually, let me start out by asking if you thought Edward was so negative and the relationship he has with Bella is wrong then why did you continue to read the books? Puzzling ?
Anyway, I think its been stated so many times that the Twilight series is fiction. I mean where else on earth are you going to find Vampires and Werewolves. The thing is anything can apply to a way a person see the world. From the time a child is born they read stories of fiction and watch cartoons where fictional characters do unbelievable things. How would you apply them to real life? Have you read Han Christian Anderson? Think Disney.
You bounce on everything negative about him but you miss why so many girls and some guy think Edward's great. He sense of goodness, warmth, gentleness but mainly its the way he loves and respects Bella. Yes, when he first meets Bella he wants to eat her which is wrong and evil (I throw that in for you). Edward realizing this takes off so he doesn't hurt her. Yea, he comes back because he misses his family, unthinkable I know. Then he spends a month trying avoid her making himself miserable and everyone around him. I would say that was pretty selfish of him including where he saves her life twice and then takes her dinner because he worried she might go into shock. What was he thinking.
I would agree that Edward can seem controlling but its based on fear not because he wants to dominate her. I mean the girl is an accident waiting to happen. Can't walk without tripping over her own two feet and the broken bones, even Carlisle commented about it. With everything that they had been through in Twilight and New Moon. Most can see why he gets a little crazy with Bella and her ability to bring danger into her life. But it doesn't mean he's abusive mentally. I could understand if he insulted her consistently or made her think that she was weak but he didn't. I find it interesting that when Edward preforms the biggest selfless act of his existence by leaving Bella to protect her, you find him stupid and hurtful.
Terracottakitten, I would have to agree that he cross the line, going into her room but he never lays a hand on her. He doesn't go through her stuff or watch her get dress or undress. He just watches over her like a lovesick guardian angel or vampire in his case. Yet this does not make him creepy. I'm not sure where in any of the 4 1/2 books Edward's relationship with Bella destroys the people around them. If anything it brought, humans, werewolves and vampires together in a way that had never happened before.
Its sad that you think that most young girls have no common sense when it comes to telling the difference between fiction and real life. That they focus on Edward good traits and might actually want a guy who is smart, respectful, loving, gentle, honorable and romantic. That they are weak for enjoying such a "stupid fantasy". I say this as a person who isn't even crazy about Edward. Yes, I like him but I don't have rose colored glasses on when to Edwards many imperfection. Honestly there wouldn't be a story if Edward was flawless.
And he's a 108-year-old virgin. I still wonder how that's possible... definitely one of the more fiction/fantasy/wishful thinking aspects of it.
holdingoutforjacob wrote:malaz, YOU may be the exception but the fact is that most young girls are highly susceptable to images and symbols such as edward, they are shaping their values and what they want ina relationship, and they get that from their environments, be it their parents, their friends, or their books. even the media. why do you think anorexia is around??
that's not to say EVERY young girl who reads twilight will do this. but it's safe to say that this is what girls at that stage DO. now, if you have a lot of other positive examples of how a relationship should work, then you'll be fine. the girls susceptable to falling into this trap are ones that have no other examples.
Amivera wrote:Both sides can definitely be supported, but I was extremely surprised when I read Midnight Sun and realized that Edward fell in love with Bella before he even knew her brain.
moon sidhe wrote:Amivera wrote:Both sides can definitely be supported, but I was extremely surprised when I read Midnight Sun and realized that Edward fell in love with Bella before he even knew her brain.
You may not know or understand all the intricacies of someone's personality on first meeting them, but there's still something intangible that you can sense about them. A connection maybe? It's described as an electric current in the book. They just seem to immediately sense this before they even know one another. And that's the romantic ideal, right? Two people are so right for each other that they just immediately know it. There's no logic or reason to it.
It does seem like a fantasy... but I must admit that I've experienced it myself. The total happy cliché. On my first date with my, now fiancé, there was something in the air. I don't even know how to describe it, but I can tell you that after our first date he went home and told his roommate that he just met the girl he was going to marry. He was right.
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