Gitta wrote:Maybee physically (until she became a vampire) but she has a very strong mind stronger, than Edwards. She survived when he left her, she did do a couple of stupid things but she survived. When she found out that a vampire army of newborns were created to kill her she didn't freak out, she was only worried about her friends and family and wanted to help as little as she could.
And she stubborn and determinated and that's also a sign of a very strong and independet mind, but it's a fine line between stubborness and pure stupidity.
glstewart wrote:Amivera: You say that Bella's lack of common sense shows up in her walking around a strange city she had never been to before. I don't agree. She wasn't just wandering around like a moron, she was looking for a bookstore (albeit, while she was preoccupied) and got lost. It could happen to anyone.
moon sidhe wrote:Also, stalking is in the eye of the beholder. I mean, if a guy likes me, and I have absolutely no interest in him as a friend or otherwise, I frequently tend to think of it as creepy, even if it's not exactly fair. If a guy I like is showing interest and showing up in the same places or calling me all the time? Well, I don't find that creepy, because I want to see him and hear from him. Bella obviously really liked Edward. So of course she would be flattered by the attention rather than put off by it.
glstewart wrote:She wasn't just wandering around like a moron, she was looking for a bookstore (albeit, while she was preoccupied) and got lost. It could happen to anyone.
sunni wrote:The stalking was spooky regardless of whether or not he liked her. At that point in time, Edward didn't even know Bella and yet he had the nerve to creep into her room. I think the problem here is that because of Edward's dazzling looks, both Bella and the reader are masked from the real problem here. I don't think he should have been excused from what he did, just because he looked good. I'm sure there are stalkers/murderers/bad guys/etc out there who are good-looking...doesn't excuse their actions. Edwards actions were glamourised -or let's say, taken less seriously - because of his looks.
moon sidhe wrote:Yes, if in real life some guy crept into my room and watched me sleep, I would be really disturbed. I would spray mace in his face and call 911 no matter how "dazzling" he was. But I have to say I don't really take the book seriously enough to be bothered by it. It's a romance novel. It's not real. And let's give the proverbial reader here a little more credit. I don't really see the point in wasting my time and energy worrying about some person out there who may think it's ok to be stalked because of these books. Those people are few and far between. Most people have the good sense to know this is a romance novel, not a morality tale.
glstewart wrote:The similiarities are very loose, although they are there. When SM said Twilight was based on P&P, I don't think she meant it as a modern re-write. According to her personality, time and place, Elizabeth was a strong woman. According to her personality, time and place, Bella was a strong...uh - girl/woman . They both fell in love with men who were blinded by pride and prejudice, and they both helped those men overcome those weaknesses. To me, that's where the similarities end.
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