Re: Edward Cullen #3
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:51 pm
Great answers. I completly agree. Nobody and nothing messes with fate. They were meant to be together cool mind reading or no cool mind reading.
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No, I don't think that cops or soldiers are selfish. I think they are very selfless for risking their lives to protect others and I respect them and their choices. I hope I didn't offend any of these people. What I said was directed specifically to Bella in this mystical situation. I do think that parents should try to leave their child with at least one parent if at all possible. In this case, someone mentioned that Bella would not have been track-able by Demetri and would be able to protect Renesmee. The quote from BD that this person posted suggested that Bella wanted to die if Edward was going to die. I do think that quote makes Bella sound selfish and irresponsible. That quote makes is sound as though Bella would rather die and not have to suffer through living without Edward than be there for her daughter. Looking at the entire situation, I think it would be a very difficult situation to be put in, having to choose between fighting with your family who is fighting because of your daughter or staying with your daughter. After the entire discussion, though, I do not think Bella was basing her choice on believing Edward would die and not wanting to live without him, so I no longer think she was making a selfish choice. I think Bella was, as someone else said, doing what Alice meant for her to do because she believed Alice had seen both Bella and Edward dead. I don't think Bella was considering that there might be other options because she trusted Alice's visions.mikkib wrote:I agree if she decided to go off herself or curl up into a ball like NM because something happened to Edward, that would be selfish. But, she hadn't done that. She opted to fight. She opted to do what is right to defend everyone she loved. Yes, she was taking a risk, a big one, that she wouldn't make it but well, she was doing what she thinks is right. I am not saying I would make that choice myself but it's not a bad or selfish one. It's not selfish for a mother to be fighting in Iraq or be a cop trying to do what's right. Should all "good" mothers do the safest thing possible to never orphan their children? Yes, I am a mother, BTW, a coward for sure but I do respect the choices made by other women out there.
I'm not offended, but you obviously must not have any children. I think any mother would agree with what Lunna San said. Your love for your child is a different kind of love, but it is definitely not less than your love for your husband. Renesmee is her child with Edward. She sees Edward in Renesmee. She knows Edward loves Renesmee. All of these things contribute to how much she loves Renesmee. Of course she's known Edward for longer. He's her husband, and Renesmee is her child. What mother hasn't known her husband and parents and friends for longer than her child? That doesn't mean anything. A child is typically the most important thing in any mother's life. Remember when (I forget thevampire's name) a vampire was helping Bella practice extending her shield by shocking Edward. Bella didn't like that it was causing Edward pain, but she was OK with it. When that vampire wanted to use Renesmee because she knew protecting her child would give Bella more motivation, Bella was livid. I think that shows who Bella is more protective of at this point. If Bella ever had to choose between saving Renesmee and saving Edward, I think she would choose to save Renesmee, just as any parent would save their young child. If anyone was forced to choose in, say a car crash or a robbery, I'd have to say 99.9% of parents would save their child. I've known people who have lost their spouses and people who have lost a child. While both are devastating, losing a child is much more difficult.
edward4ever-
Good find. I think you must be right and Bella made her decisions based on Alice.
Sorry I didn't get the joke. It was too early in the morning and I was hirring to go out. My apologies.edward4ever wrote:Don't fret roseaurora...I got the joke! I cracked up laughing! The tension was high on thinking Bella's choice was wrong. So, I think some people must have skipped right over the part when you wroteroseaurora wrote:That little sarcastic remark didn't go over as well as the RV thing, lol.
Sorry... just wanted to lighten the mood... I was not being serious...at all. I'm totally aware there is a difference between the love for a child and that for a spouse...
"This is totally just a joke....couldn't resist..."
And all those lauging smilies! C'mon people!!! CHILL!!
No worries... my attempt to lighten the mood in here failed... am definitely no JasperLunna-san wrote:Sorry I didn't get the joke. It was too early in the morning and I was hirring to go out. My apologies.edward4ever wrote:Don't fret roseaurora...I got the joke! I cracked up laughing! The tension was high on thinking Bella's choice was wrong. So, I think some people must have skipped right over the part when you wroteroseaurora wrote:That little sarcastic remark didn't go over as well as the RV thing, lol.
Sorry... just wanted to lighten the mood... I was not being serious...at all. I'm totally aware there is a difference between the love for a child and that for a spouse...
"This is totally just a joke....couldn't resist..."
And all those lauging smilies! C'mon people!!! CHILL!!
Mrs.Edward_Cullen<3 wrote:Everyone stop posting I contacted like 5 mods( ) And pretty soon we'll have Edward Cullen #4. See you there. NO MORE POSTING!!!!!!!!
Edit: JUst look at my avvie. Do what Edward says. He approves.