Re: Edward Cullen #4
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:50 pm
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Jazz Girl you really are amazing with your posts! I completly agree - maybe possesive was the wrong word for me to use.Jazz Girl wrote: Anyway, let me first say I don't see Edward as possesive. Protective to be sure. And, occasionally overbearingly so. But, possessive again strays towards that idea that he believes Bella belongs to him. I don't believe that at all. From the moment he decides to give in to his feelings for her, he goes out of his way to make sure she has a choice in how things progress. Yes, we see that his desire to protect her, even against her own wishes, takes over more often than not. But I think Edward always treasures Bella's independence, is always mindful of it, even if he occasionally overrules it in favor of keeping her alive and whole.
As for where that protective instinct comes from, I think that has always been his nature. We don't know much about the Masens. But, it seems pretty clear that they raised Edward with a clear sense of responsibility and chivalry, a duty to protect particularly those weaker than he is. I see it as a big reason why he was so keen to enlist and fight in WWI. And, once he was changed, that was among his human characteristics that came with him and was strengthened. And, through living with Carlisle, it was strengthened even more. By the time Bella comes into his life, seeming so fragile and defenseless, he has to protect her. Remember, in The Novel We Shall Not Name, before he is exposed to her scent and his physical desire for her, he feels the need to shield her from Jessica's pettiness. A tiny foreshadowing of the protectiveness he would come to feel. And, once he realizes he's in love with her, particularly with his heightened vampire emotions, the thought of anything that might hurt her triggers that instinct with a ferocity even he can't fully wrap his head around.[/color]
SeniorGimp - love it. I think Bella would be more than capable of looking after herself but her inherent "fragilness" must just bring out the protectivness of the male species in general and Edward in particular!SenorGimp wrote:Edward's protectiveness stems from the fact that I'm not sure there has ever been anyone MORE in need of protection, ridiculous though that sounds. Who else have you ever heard of that is such a tremendous contradiction?
Absolutely unafraid of all of the monstrosities of the world, capable of looking death in the eye, and being only moderately regretful, and that because of the fact that her death will hurt others. Running with Vampires and Werewolves, and yet, here's the big irony, fainting at the smell of blood!!
She just cries out for protection in every one of her seemingly trivial actions and quirks, so I can completely understand Edward's need to protect her. She's the strongest example of a completely fragile person ever written..
- completley agree with this Esme echo -Imprinting or not Jacob should have backed off and let them bond with the baby - espcecially when Bella first meets Renesme properly and he goes all over protective crazyness! Slightly off topic - might move that over to the Jacob thread...Esme echo wrote:but that Jacob was lionizing the available time he and Bella had with the baby . . . interferring with their chance to bond with their baby.
Hmm interesting. I think he still would have left, because he belives he knew best. But I think it would have destroyed him even more and he would have come back even quicker than he was planning too (even without the cliff diving).Esme echo wrote:If Edward could have read Bella's mind, and he still fell in love with her, do you think he would have left in New Moon? Wouldn't he have seen how much Bella loved him, and known leaving wouldn't work?
What a great question! I never thought about this one before. I truly believe that, No, Edward would not have left if he had known the depth of her feelings for him. Remember, he said (pg 71-72)Esme echo wrote: If Edward could have read Bella's mind, and he still fell in love with her, do you think he would have left in New Moon? Wouldn't he have seen how much Bella loved him, and known leaving wouldn't work?
Esme echo wrote: If Edward could have read Bella's mind, and he still fell in love with her, do you think he would have left in New Moon? Wouldn't he have seen how much Bella loved him, and known leaving wouldn't work?
That's a tough one. Probably. Because Edward loved her so much, that he felt that leaving her would 'save' her.Esme echo wrote: If Edward could have read Bella's mind, and he still fell in love with her, do you think he would have left in New Moon? Wouldn't he have seen how much Bella loved him, and known leaving wouldn't work?
I would have to insistent to the contrary. I think it's proven as much in the contents of the books, that this "subjective" evaluation was properly more analyzed than necessary. I feel sometimes that Edward - as his role as "protector" - likes to think and act for both of them. Bella and himself. It's such a complex thought process. I love it.navarre wrote: His reasoning is so subjective, because the idea of her being hurt or dying because of his world caused him to not think analytically of what the consequences would be for her and for him.
Excellent counter-point. I see what you mean. He did analyze things quite subjectively.malaz wrote:I would have to insistent to the contrary. I think it's proven as much in the contents of the books, that this "subjective" evaluation was properly more analyzed than necessary. I feel sometimes that Edward - as his role as "protector" - likes to think and act for both of them. Bella and himself. It's such a complex thought process. I love it.navarre wrote: His reasoning is so subjective, because the idea of her being hurt or dying because of his world caused him to not think analytically of what the consequences would be for her and for him.